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> A lot of boys get the impression that women are "teasing" them and "deserve" to be assaulted. I don't know which alternate universe you might be observing, b

> A lot of boys get the impression that women are "teasing" them and "deserve" to be assaulted. I don't know which alternate universe you might be observing, but in this universe that is simply not true.

pessimizer 4y ago
You don't think that a lot of men think that women who dress or behave a certain way are teases that deserve "what they get"? You're the one in a dream world, mate.
- epicureanideal 4y ago
  > You're the one in a dream world, mate. The Grievance Industry and Woke Studies courses really try hard to make it seem that men are these evil brutes, but the vast, vast majority are conscientious people.
  - stOneskull 4y ago
    men are good and deserve a lot more praise
  - CyanBird 4y ago
    > vast majority are conscientious people. Yes the vast majority are But theres a minority that is not, and is that minority the one that drives these bad altercations and therefore bad outcomes like these are the ones that lead the risk assessment for women. And this will keep happening irregardless of how conscientious the majority is. Because this issue is not about the majority, but the minority
    - thriftwy 4y ago
      Why wash and rinse the normative majority's brains with this info then? They have no levers to pull and the minority of perpetrators won't mind these ramblings anyway.
      - CyanBird 4y ago
        > Why wash and rinse the normative majority's brains with this info then? Because that minority group can be groomed from childhood to not behave in such a way via strong social norms, and therefore reduced in size to an even smaller minority. Likely will never disappear entirely, but achievable goals are better than idealistic perceptions never applied
- Jensson 4y ago
  A lot of men think that the people they rob or stab "deserve what they" get as well. Telling these people that robbing or stabbing people is wrong wont help, since that isn't the problem, the just say "deserve what you get" because they know what they are doing is wrong.
squeaky-clean 4y ago
I hung out with...the wrong crowd... in high school. That attitude is very real.
CyanBird 4y ago
I appreciate the candor, but you are just wrong That crowd is quite widespread
Eisenstein 4y ago
One example: watch some 80s movies again. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom stands out. Indy forces a kiss on a woman and it is seen as romantic -- she says no but wants it. A lot of messaging like this is just accepted and we never think about it. But when you realize it, it happened a lot.

pessimizer 4y ago

You don't think that a lot of men think that women who dress or behave a certain way are teases that deserve "what they get"? You're the one in a dream world, mate.

epicureanideal 4y ago
> You're the one in a dream world, mate. The Grievance Industry and Woke Studies courses really try hard to make it seem that men are these evil brutes, but the vast, vast majority are conscientious people.
- stOneskull 4y ago
  men are good and deserve a lot more praise
- CyanBird 4y ago
  > vast majority are conscientious people. Yes the vast majority are But theres a minority that is not, and is that minority the one that drives these bad altercations and therefore bad outcomes like these are the ones that lead the risk assessment for women. And this will keep happening irregardless of how conscientious the majority is. Because this issue is not about the majority, but the minority
  - thriftwy 4y ago
    Why wash and rinse the normative majority's brains with this info then? They have no levers to pull and the minority of perpetrators won't mind these ramblings anyway.
    - CyanBird 4y ago
      > Why wash and rinse the normative majority's brains with this info then? Because that minority group can be groomed from childhood to not behave in such a way via strong social norms, and therefore reduced in size to an even smaller minority. Likely will never disappear entirely, but achievable goals are better than idealistic perceptions never applied
Jensson 4y ago
A lot of men think that the people they rob or stab "deserve what they" get as well. Telling these people that robbing or stabbing people is wrong wont help, since that isn't the problem, the just say "deserve what you get" because they know what they are doing is wrong.

squeaky-clean 4y ago

I hung out with...the wrong crowd... in high school. That attitude is very real.

CyanBird 4y ago

I appreciate the candor, but you are just wrong That crowd is quite widespread

Eisenstein 4y ago

One example: watch some 80s movies again. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom stands out. Indy forces a kiss on a woman and it is seen as romantic -- she says no but wants it. A lot of messaging like this is just accepted and we never think about it. But when you realize it, it happened a lot.