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Oh, we forgot to tell criminals to not be criminal. What a silly overight.

• jfengel 4y ago
  Unfortunately, this is a real problem for women. A lot of boys get the impression that women are "teasing" them and "deserve" to be assaulted. Every woman who files rape charges knows that she's going to have her sexual history questioned, and be asked what she was wearing, as if that made a difference to the legality. You wouldn't think that "No means no" is a lesson we'd have to teach, but not only do we have to, but a lot of people will push back on it. So I'm being a bit facetious in my reply, but I'm using the opportunity of the OP's self-pity to reiterate: this is a thing that women go through all the time.
  • epicureanideal 4y ago
    > A lot of boys get the impression that women are "teasing" them and "deserve" to be assaulted. I don't know which alternate universe you might be observing, but in this universe that is simply not true.
    • pessimizer 4y ago
      You don't think that a lot of men think that women who dress or behave a certain way are teases that deserve "what they get"? You're the one in a dream world, mate.
      • epicureanideal 4y ago
        > You're the one in a dream world, mate. The Grievance Industry and Woke Studies courses really try hard to make it seem that men are these evil brutes, but the vast, vast majority are conscientious people.
        • stOneskull 4y ago
          men are good and deserve a lot more praise
        • CyanBird 4y ago
          > vast majority are conscientious people. Yes the vast majority are But theres a minority that is not, and is that minority the one that drives these bad altercations and therefore bad outcomes like these are the ones that lead the risk assessment for women. And this will keep happening irregardless of how conscientious the majority is. Because this issue is not about the majority, but the minority
          • thriftwy 4y ago
            Why wash and rinse the normative majority's brains with this info then? They have no levers to pull and the minority of perpetrators won't mind these ramblings anyway.
            • CyanBird 4y ago
              > Why wash and rinse the normative majority's brains with this info then? Because that minority group can be groomed from childhood to not behave in such a way via strong social norms, and therefore reduced in size to an even smaller minority. Likely will never disappear entirely, but achievable goals are better than idealistic perceptions never applied
      • Jensson 4y ago
        A lot of men think that the people they rob or stab "deserve what they" get as well. Telling these people that robbing or stabbing people is wrong wont help, since that isn't the problem, the just say "deserve what you get" because they know what they are doing is wrong.
    • squeaky-clean 4y ago
      I hung out with...the wrong crowd... in high school. That attitude is very real.
    • CyanBird 4y ago
      I appreciate the candor, but you are just wrong That crowd is quite widespread
    • Eisenstein 4y ago
      One example: watch some 80s movies again. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom stands out. Indy forces a kiss on a woman and it is seen as romantic -- she says no but wants it. A lot of messaging like this is just accepted and we never think about it. But when you realize it, it happened a lot.
  • fennecfoxy 4y ago
    "A lot" might be anecdotal, but my observations of heteros doesn't really seem like the number of a lot. Maybe more than zero, because in an ideal world it would be zero. There is no conversation, however, on the physical violence regularly suffered by men. Or the tells/behaviours that we adopt to avoid such things happening when we can. Men are the victims of the most crime, but because of a small subset of us we are also the perpetrators of most crime. Everyone focuses on the latter, ignoring the former.