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The "potentially damage a product if connected in an unexpected way" is wrong. It is impossible to damage device with in-spec cable and devices. Mismatched cabl
by ianburrell 4y ago
The "potentially damage a product if connected in an unexpected way" is wrong. It is impossible to damage device with in-spec cable and devices. Mismatched cable results in slower data or slower charging.
Out-of-spec cables and chargers are definitely a problem but the solution is to not buy cheap junk. Specifying the capabilities won't help.
- dotancohen 4y ago"Don't but cheap junk" might be a great corporate policy, but it is not a viable or realistic consumer strategy.
- fnordpiglet 4y agoIf only there were a standard that ensured it wasn’t junk and apple was encouraging the use of that standard.
- ianburrell 4y agoApple should encourage the USB-IF certification. I would be fine if they advertised it as "Apple certified".
- fnordpiglet 4y agoBeing on the board I’m sure they do. But my understanding is the MFi stuff here is to ensure a specific compliance that is a more strict subset of the USB-IF certification, and by using their trade mark they have standing to go after anyone violating it more aggressively than you might expect from a trade group. I also can’t see where the headline says they’re nerfing anything. It seems like MFi is a “maximum comparability and quality” standard they assert for their products, but their product is still usb-if compliant so works perfectly fine with any non MFi accessory. Further MFi doesn’t mean only works with apple or something. I literally see no issue with this beyond “Apple evil must be irate”
- Eisenstein 4y agoHow do you ensure a standard doesn't get bypassed by a bad actor? If it isn't working for USB-C why would it work for MFi? There are chips in USB-C cables that negotiate with the host; if they can fake those what stops them from faking MFi? The end result of this, is people buying more cables. USB-C was designed to mitigate the problem and now we have another standard using the same connector but requiring a different cable. It is just as bad as those devices which take USB-C but haven't updated the board to include sense resistors so they only charge with USB-A to C cables.
- shagie 4y agoMFI (Made-For-iPhone) is trademarked by Apple and they will enforce that by having infringing products removed from various markets and retailers... though if you're buying from dodgy retailers you can get knock offs of nearly anything.
- Eisenstein 4y agoDo you consider Amazon a dodgy retailer? If so, congrats but most people buy their stuff there. If not, I have some bad news about dodgy goods on Amazon...
- shagie 4y agoGiven the reviews and experiences from https://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFLICGQRF6BRJGH2RRD4VGMB47ZA/ref=cm_cr_srp_d_gw_btm?ie=UTF8 https://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFLICGQRF6BR... - absolutely, they're a dodgy retailer (and resell dodgy items). I would suggest buying only appropriately branded cables (which incidentally includes Amazon Basics). Though personally, for any cable that matters, I've spent the premium and purchased it from Apple as I'm fairly certain I am getting exactly what I am getting.
- Eisenstein 4y agoSo you have no refutation to my point. Your contribution was 'yeah they can be faked, just like USB-C, but I only buy real ones'.
- qball 4y ago>Out-of-spec cables and chargers are definitely a problem Then maybe they should bother including one (that they know is in-spec) in the box when you buy the phone.
- JohnFen 4y ago> the solution is to not buy cheap junk. And, of course, never ever use a cable you didn't buy? No borrowing one from your friends, no using the office charger, etc.? That sounds like a restriction nearly no one would adhere to.
- nani8ot 4y agoNow they won't be able to use my perfectly fine, USB-IF certified cable to charge their devices fast. The cable supports 100W, is certified, but not by Apple.