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12 years is a long time if you're talking about computer or phone tech (the iPhone is "only" 16 years old, android phones are younger than that) It's a very s
by Johnny555 4y ago
12 years is a long time if you're talking about computer or phone tech (the iPhone is "only" 16 years old, android phones are younger than that)
It's a very short time (maybe too short) if you're talking about transitioning the entire car industry off of fossil fuels.
- LatteLazy 4y agoI am old enough to remember the aim being the year 2000 for us to be carbon neutral. Then it was 2010. Then 2015. Then 2020. Now its 2035. In 2040, we will be totally absolutely complete committed to making cuts starting in 2050. This is why no one does the obvious: If you ACTUALLY want a 100% cut in 2035, why not have an 8.5% cut per year for each of those 12 years? Or even just a 1% cut? Or even just a 1 car less cut? Because the plan is to do nothing for 12 years then give ourselves another extension.
- Johnny555 4y agoI don’t remember there being any promise or commitment to go carbon neutral by 2000, the Kyoto Protocol for carbon emissions reductions wasn’t signed until 1997 and didn’t even go into full effect until 2005, with the first commitment level starting in 2008, but that level wasn’t full carbon neutrality.
- LatteLazy 4y agoThe stated purpose of Kyoto was to cut emissions. We have increased emissions since signing it. The stated purpose of Paris was to avoid 1.5 degrees of warming. That level of warming is now inevitable. But we will instead totally really definitely avoid 2 degrees. Which we're already likely to miss. Now the EU tells me about how we are going to go ICE car free by 2035. And do that by doing nothing now...