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BEVs are unaffordable pretty much everywhere (if there are no government subsidies). Every single BEV model seems to be 20-50% more expensive than its ICE coun
by dmitriid 4y ago
BEVs are unaffordable pretty much everywhere (if there are no government subsidies).
Every single BEV model seems to be 20-50% more expensive than its ICE counterpart. And the "cheap" ones are something like Renault Tweezy, useless to most people.
- onethought 4y agoTotal cost of ownership is reduced significantly with BEVs Government subsidies exist for oil and ice vehicles as well. I think if you subtracted all subsidies ICE must be far more expensive because oil infrastructure is obviously way less efficient.
- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago> Government subsidies exist for oil and ice vehicles as well. Maybe in USA there are subsidies on gas. Come to EU, 50% tax on gas, no subsidies.
- onethought 4y agoSo that price you pay covers it’s extraction, refinement and whole sale purchase and transportation? You sure that isn’t subsidised somewhere along the line?
- hexo 4y agoYes it does and they do brutally profit from it.
- onethought 4y agoOh I guess all this news of a climate problem is just fud, because it was already priced into the oil. My mistake.
- numbers_guy 4y agoElectricity is very expensive here too.
- dmitriid 4y ago> Total cost of ownership is reduced significantly with BEVs Is it? With the electricity prices what they are and sparse infrastructure I doubt BEVs have a lower cost of ownership. At least in Europe. > oil infrastructure is obviously way less efficient Not sure it's obvious. If anything, oil infra has been optimized to be as cost effective as possible. Remember Deepwater Horizon? They were extracting oil from 10 km under water still at competitive prices.
- onethought 4y agoRight, drilling oil from the ocean, then shipping it to a refinery then driving it to a station then putting it in your car is some how more efficient than a solar panel running electricity through an inverter into your car.
- dmitriid 4y agoYou'd be surprised. Efficiency is rarely about how many steps it takes to get there. And even taking into account all the steps that you call inefficient, ICE cars are still 20-50% cheaper to buy. And with electricity prices what they are ICE cars are probably the same, or even cheaper, to run.