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I don't follow your argument. I've lived in various major European cities and it was always easy enough to find a discount supermarket (Lidl, Aldi etc.) within

by slhck 4y ago

I don't follow your argument. I've lived in various major European cities and it was always easy enough to find a discount supermarket (Lidl, Aldi etc.) within walking distance, and if not, maybe within 5 minutes of cycling. There would've rarely been a need to use the (more expensive, but certainly not 50%) corner grocery store. Everyone can afford this — quite the contrary: people often ignore the hundreds of Euros they spend on a car, because it's just a given for them. (That said, I know there are lots of people who depend on the car for getting to a work location because of lack of public transport.) I don't know about the building you're talking about and can't weigh in on this.

Tade0 4y ago
A store placed where land and labour is expensive will necessarily have considerably higher prices than one far away from such an area. I had friends who, in order to save money, went by bus, did shopping for the whole week and just Ubered back, because even compared to a local Lidl it was worth it. Of course it was a major time sink, but spread over a week didn't affect them too much. My personal record was in Zurich, where I had a whopping 3.6km to the next Lidl, from which I only returned by bus, because those ~4CHF saved on the ticket there afforded me 1kg of bananas(2CHF instead of 3 in Coop) and a can of tuna. This is the type of reality I'm talking about - note the lack of cars in these scenarios. I wish I could find the clip showing the mentioned building, but a cursory search didn't yield results.
- wolverine876 4y ago
  > My personal record was in Zurich, where I had a whopping 3.6km to the next Lidl, from which I only returned by bus, because those ~4CHF saved on the ticket there afforded me 1kg of bananas(2CHF instead of 3 in Coop) and a can of tuna. By bicyle, 3.6 km would take 10-15 min without riding hard.

by slhck 4y ago

Tade0 4y ago

A store placed where land and labour is expensive will necessarily have considerably higher prices than one far away from such an area. I had friends who, in order to save money, went by bus, did shopping for the whole week and just Ubered back, because even compared to a local Lidl it was worth it. Of course it was a major time sink, but spread over a week didn't affect them too much. My personal record was in Zurich, where I had a whopping 3.6km to the next Lidl, from which I only returned by bus, because those ~4CHF saved on the ticket there afforded me 1kg of bananas(2CHF instead of 3 in Coop) and a can of tuna. This is the type of reality I'm talking about - note the lack of cars in these scenarios. I wish I could find the clip showing the mentioned building, but a cursory search didn't yield results.

wolverine876 4y ago
> My personal record was in Zurich, where I had a whopping 3.6km to the next Lidl, from which I only returned by bus, because those ~4CHF saved on the ticket there afforded me 1kg of bananas(2CHF instead of 3 in Coop) and a can of tuna. By bicyle, 3.6 km would take 10-15 min without riding hard.