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According to state testing? I was an A student (as were many of my peers) but you'd best believe we dicked around with anything that we were told wouldn't affec

According to state testing? I was an A student (as were many of my peers) but you'd best believe we dicked around with anything that we were told wouldn't affect our letter grades (e.g. state testing).

dividefuel 4y ago
I wondered this a lot when I was a student in the 2000s. What fraction of kids take the tests seriously? What fraction put in the same effort as they would into their academic tests? I had some friends who were poor students and didn't care much about school. I doubt these people put in much or any effort at all into these tests. I was a good student, but at a certain point I got burnt out too. It wasn't worth reading the 10th literature passage extra carefully, nor checking my work on each math problem. These tests are long and don't impact me: why should I give it my all?
justin_oaks 4y ago
This is an underrated comment. I remember taking a Golden State Exam [1] in high school. It was for English and it required some essay writing. I didn't think I'd be in the top group so I wouldn't win any award, and I knew it wouldn't affect my letter grade. I spent the time writing random stuff that would fill the page instead of what I was supposed to write about. It would be interesting to get data on how much students don't even try on exams that don't affect their letter grade. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Exams https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Exams
tssva 4y ago
This is still the case. In my state growth assessment tests are given for reading and math every fall and spring. These tests don't affect students grades in any manner. My experience with my child and her friends is that no effort is given. When the test answers were recorded via paper creating patterns on the test sheet was the only effort given. Now that it is computerized, they just randomly select answers or pick a letter to answer for every question. Based upon these tests my daughter and most of her friends are illiterate and can't count. Her and her friends are all A students enrolled in honors, AP and dual enrollment classes. In high school there are a few state level tests which effect whether you graduate. These they take more seriously.

dividefuel 4y ago

I wondered this a lot when I was a student in the 2000s. What fraction of kids take the tests seriously? What fraction put in the same effort as they would into their academic tests? I had some friends who were poor students and didn't care much about school. I doubt these people put in much or any effort at all into these tests. I was a good student, but at a certain point I got burnt out too. It wasn't worth reading the 10th literature passage extra carefully, nor checking my work on each math problem. These tests are long and don't impact me: why should I give it my all?

justin_oaks 4y ago

This is an underrated comment. I remember taking a Golden State Exam [1] in high school. It was for English and it required some essay writing. I didn't think I'd be in the top group so I wouldn't win any award, and I knew it wouldn't affect my letter grade. I spent the time writing random stuff that would fill the page instead of what I was supposed to write about. It would be interesting to get data on how much students don't even try on exams that don't affect their letter grade. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Exams https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Exams

tssva 4y ago

This is still the case. In my state growth assessment tests are given for reading and math every fall and spring. These tests don't affect students grades in any manner. My experience with my child and her friends is that no effort is given. When the test answers were recorded via paper creating patterns on the test sheet was the only effort given. Now that it is computerized, they just randomly select answers or pick a letter to answer for every question. Based upon these tests my daughter and most of her friends are illiterate and can't count. Her and her friends are all A students enrolled in honors, AP and dual enrollment classes. In high school there are a few state level tests which effect whether you graduate. These they take more seriously.