> a lot of "clean" code isn't really that much clearer and more maintainable at all Oh, it's not. Look at the crap the Java community used to produce. 37 lev

> a lot of "clean" code isn't really that much clearer and more maintainable at all Oh, it's not. Look at the crap the Java community used to produce. 37 levels of abstraction is not maintainable.