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Upvoted. I'm with you, and don't understand this seeming 100% pro piracy attitude. I am 100% against piracy in every form, but also 100% against aggressive gove

Upvoted. I'm with you, and don't understand this seeming 100% pro piracy attitude. I am 100% against piracy in every form, but also 100% against aggressive government involvement in nearly everything. But if people are blatently stealing or providing a platform based around theft, they deserve to be punished. And governments are the only system of punishment that exist. SOPA and insane laws are not the answer of course but I don't understand this sad Hacker News trend where people downvote anything they disagree with. Downvoting is meant for trolls and irrelevant posts.

icebraining 15y ago
SOPA and insane laws are not the answer of course Insane laws like SOPA and worse are the only possible answer if you want to enforce copyright. Nothing less than full blown constant network surveillance would work. Supporting copyright as it's defined by law and not supporting laws like SOPA is an oxymoron.
nitrogen 15y ago
don't understand this seeming 100% pro piracy attitude I'm thinking it's at least partially an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" attitude. Megaupload was about to launch a music distribution service for indie musicians, MegaBox, that, due to Mega's popularity among non-technical users, would have been a significant threat to the major labels, iTunes, and Amazon MP3. They were also fighting Universal to defend their Mega Song. Copyright is out of control, the public domain is stagnant, so maybe some people think that anyone fighting the copyright establishment is worth supporting. Another part may be that some people here survived their teenage years on downloaded music and developed their skills using pirated software, and would never have become programmers/designers/hackers without it. Maybe they feel like the excessive force shown to combat piracy is like an indirect way of the government and major copyright owners saying, "Your career is illegitimate." It's an attack on their identity.
- jonhendry 15y ago
  "It's an attack on their identity." Which is pathetic. They need a better identity, because they one they've got is hollow.
  - nitrogen 15y ago
    Fortunately for the world, individual identity is not dictated by random online commenters. P.S. A number of your comments on this thread have been inflammatory. You've been here long enough to know there are better ways of getting your point across.

icebraining 15y ago

SOPA and insane laws are not the answer of course Insane laws like SOPA and worse are the only possible answer if you want to enforce copyright. Nothing less than full blown constant network surveillance would work. Supporting copyright as it's defined by law and not supporting laws like SOPA is an oxymoron.

nitrogen 15y ago

don't understand this seeming 100% pro piracy attitude I'm thinking it's at least partially an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" attitude. Megaupload was about to launch a music distribution service for indie musicians, MegaBox, that, due to Mega's popularity among non-technical users, would have been a significant threat to the major labels, iTunes, and Amazon MP3. They were also fighting Universal to defend their Mega Song. Copyright is out of control, the public domain is stagnant, so maybe some people think that anyone fighting the copyright establishment is worth supporting. Another part may be that some people here survived their teenage years on downloaded music and developed their skills using pirated software, and would never have become programmers/designers/hackers without it. Maybe they feel like the excessive force shown to combat piracy is like an indirect way of the government and major copyright owners saying, "Your career is illegitimate." It's an attack on their identity.

jonhendry 15y ago
"It's an attack on their identity." Which is pathetic. They need a better identity, because they one they've got is hollow.
- nitrogen 15y ago
  Fortunately for the world, individual identity is not dictated by random online commenters. P.S. A number of your comments on this thread have been inflammatory. You've been here long enough to know there are better ways of getting your point across.