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Paul - Why not create a "comment karma threshold" to remove the incentive for new users to blindly submit stories? For instance, users won't get karma points f

Paul - Why not create a "comment karma threshold" to remove the incentive for new users to blindly submit stories? For instance, users won't get karma points for stories they submit until they reach some threshold for karma from their comments. This would be beneficial in a number of ways: * encourage better comments from new users * prevent downvote capability for new users that only submit a lot of stories * fewer low-quality stories will be submitted

chc 15y ago
This would seem to imply that comments are somehow "superior" to stories, and I'm not sure that's supposed to be the case.
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- bmelton 15y ago
  I think that HN is large enough now that we don't have to worry about stories getting missed. We used to be small enough that any contribution was potentially new and novel and a general benefit to having been posted here, as it might not have been submitted otherwise. Nowadays, it's big enough that people submit so much that the opposite is a problem, where a given article is submitted multiple times. It's less important whether or not everyone can submit an article because the frequency is high enough that we'll get it from the next guy. We can now afford to limit the amount of submissions we receive, and limiting the submissions to people who have some standing in the community makes sense, at least on its face. That said, I think it's a great idea, and about the least inconvenient, from a community standpoint, as I've heard for limiting spam.
- nantes 15y ago
  I get what you're saying, but I am not sure it does. When I first arrived on HN, I was unsure about what was appropriate to post. I learned by reading the comments and contributing where I had something useful to share. Now, after a year or two, I often hear or read a story and think HN has to see this. Then I step back and really weigh whether it fits HN or if I just think it's cool. Often, I end up not submitting. By starting out slow I realized HN isn't popularity contest, but an important community. That was my experience anyway, YMMV.

chc 15y ago

This would seem to imply that comments are somehow "superior" to stories, and I'm not sure that's supposed to be the case.

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bmelton 15y ago
I think that HN is large enough now that we don't have to worry about stories getting missed. We used to be small enough that any contribution was potentially new and novel and a general benefit to having been posted here, as it might not have been submitted otherwise. Nowadays, it's big enough that people submit so much that the opposite is a problem, where a given article is submitted multiple times. It's less important whether or not everyone can submit an article because the frequency is high enough that we'll get it from the next guy. We can now afford to limit the amount of submissions we receive, and limiting the submissions to people who have some standing in the community makes sense, at least on its face. That said, I think it's a great idea, and about the least inconvenient, from a community standpoint, as I've heard for limiting spam.
nantes 15y ago
I get what you're saying, but I am not sure it does. When I first arrived on HN, I was unsure about what was appropriate to post. I learned by reading the comments and contributing where I had something useful to share. Now, after a year or two, I often hear or read a story and think HN has to see this. Then I step back and really weigh whether it fits HN or if I just think it's cool. Often, I end up not submitting. By starting out slow I realized HN isn't popularity contest, but an important community. That was my experience anyway, YMMV.