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I don't see why walking around town should need protective gear, maybe we should wear helmets too?

macintux 4y ago
If a driver turns off all their lights and gets hit, you don’t think the driver shares some of the blame? Pedestrians wearing dark clothes at night are almost invisible. Until we put sidewalks and bright crosswalks on every street in the country, wearing reflective clothes is common sense. Comparing that to a helmet mandate is absurd.
- secretsatan 4y ago
  Ugh, talk about a false equivalence No, someone who pops out to the shops should not have to think about putting on reflective gear, someone who goes out in a car a night should be the ** aware pedestrians exist and know to turn their lights on.
- ticviking 4y ago
  No because the default for all of human existence is that I wear my normal street clothing to walk from my home to my neighbors house, or the market. The idea that innovations demand normal folks to change their way of life is absurd on the face. Very simple measures, like major consequences for all vehicle-pedestrian collisions would solve this better.
  - BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
    >”like major consequences for all vehicle-pedestrian collisions would solve this better.” There are already major consequences for hitting a pedestrian.
    - andrepd 4y ago
      Yes, for the pedestrian. A driver can pretty much commit murder behind the wheel and get by with token penalties.
    - ticviking 4y ago
      A failure to yield citation, maybe with an additional citation for negligent or distracted driving is not a major consequence. Insurance tends to cover the monetary cost of the civil suit, and higher auto insurance bills aren't really a "major consequence" either. To be charged with vehicular assault or manslaughter you have to prove intent, most of these collisions are a result of mild negligence or even poor roadway design. Many states don't have any kind of charge for negligent collision that results in jail time. And yes if you kill or injure someone while driving distracted I think 3-6 months in jail is still pretty minor, given that consequences can be permanent.

If a driver turns off all their lights and gets hit, you don’t think the driver shares some of the blame? Pedestrians wearing dark clothes at night are almost invisible. Until we put sidewalks and bright crosswalks on every street in the country, wearing reflective clothes is common sense. Comparing that to a helmet mandate is absurd.

secretsatan 4y ago
Ugh, talk about a false equivalence No, someone who pops out to the shops should not have to think about putting on reflective gear, someone who goes out in a car a night should be the ** aware pedestrians exist and know to turn their lights on.
ticviking 4y ago
No because the default for all of human existence is that I wear my normal street clothing to walk from my home to my neighbors house, or the market. The idea that innovations demand normal folks to change their way of life is absurd on the face. Very simple measures, like major consequences for all vehicle-pedestrian collisions would solve this better.
- BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
  >”like major consequences for all vehicle-pedestrian collisions would solve this better.” There are already major consequences for hitting a pedestrian.
  - andrepd 4y ago
    Yes, for the pedestrian. A driver can pretty much commit murder behind the wheel and get by with token penalties.
  - ticviking 4y ago
    A failure to yield citation, maybe with an additional citation for negligent or distracted driving is not a major consequence. Insurance tends to cover the monetary cost of the civil suit, and higher auto insurance bills aren't really a "major consequence" either. To be charged with vehicular assault or manslaughter you have to prove intent, most of these collisions are a result of mild negligence or even poor roadway design. Many states don't have any kind of charge for negligent collision that results in jail time. And yes if you kill or injure someone while driving distracted I think 3-6 months in jail is still pretty minor, given that consequences can be permanent.