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‘Abusing state power’: China lashes out at US over TikTok bans

7 points by btzs 4y ago

brucethemoose2 4y ago
That is a silly accusation. If I were a Chinese propagandist, I would instead point to the irony of the U.S. complaining about a tase of its own foreign influence medicine (which I would debate but is still kinda a valid point).
miles 4y ago
"The US government 'has been...abusing state power to suppress other countries’ companies', Mao Ning said at a daily briefing on Tuesday." This surely must be one of the all-time great comedic pronouncements by any government anywhere.
- Kukumber 4y ago
  It's impressive that despite all evidence that the statement he made is right, you still find people who believe the US is always innocent You already forgot about Snowden and the NSA? Few examples: spy on foreign industries: https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/290615/revealed-massive-us-industrial-espionage-against-france?_locale=en&onglet=full https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/290615/revealed-m... spy on transactions: https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-nsa-spies-on-international-bank-transactions-a-922430.html https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-nsa-spies... spy on foreign secrets: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/business/us-snooping-on-companies-cited-by-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/business/us-snooping-on-c... covert agents in civil companies: https://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-origin-partly-lies-in-cia-and-nsa-research-grants-for-mass-surveillance https://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-origin-partly-lies-in-ci... bis: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-space-exploration-spacex-satellites-idUKKBN26Q3A5 https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-space-exploration-spacex-...
btzs 4y ago
What is their intention of statements like this knowing that they themselves ban foreign social media?
- _zzaw 4y ago
  Probably the same intention they had when they were brimming with outrage over their spy balloon being shot down: pure posturing for the sake of appearances. Of course China abuses state power to the hilt, and if an American spy balloon appeared over mainland China, they'd take it out of the sky without a second thought. Government PR is hypocrisy and propaganda to the core; credibility, or any semblance of moral consistency, was never the expectation or the intent.
lynchfauci 4y ago
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7 points by btzs 4y ago

That is a silly accusation. If I were a Chinese propagandist, I would instead point to the irony of the U.S. complaining about a tase of its own foreign influence medicine (which I would debate but is still kinda a valid point).

miles 4y ago

"The US government 'has been...abusing state power to suppress other countries’ companies', Mao Ning said at a daily briefing on Tuesday." This surely must be one of the all-time great comedic pronouncements by any government anywhere.

Kukumber 4y ago
It's impressive that despite all evidence that the statement he made is right, you still find people who believe the US is always innocent You already forgot about Snowden and the NSA? Few examples: spy on foreign industries: https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/290615/revealed-massive-us-industrial-espionage-against-france?_locale=en&onglet=full https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/290615/revealed-m... spy on transactions: https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-nsa-spies-on-international-bank-transactions-a-922430.html https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-nsa-spies... spy on foreign secrets: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/business/us-snooping-on-companies-cited-by-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/business/us-snooping-on-c... covert agents in civil companies: https://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-origin-partly-lies-in-cia-and-nsa-research-grants-for-mass-surveillance https://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-origin-partly-lies-in-ci... bis: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-space-exploration-spacex-satellites-idUKKBN26Q3A5 https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-space-exploration-spacex-...

btzs 4y ago

What is their intention of statements like this knowing that they themselves ban foreign social media?

_zzaw 4y ago
Probably the same intention they had when they were brimming with outrage over their spy balloon being shot down: pure posturing for the sake of appearances. Of course China abuses state power to the hilt, and if an American spy balloon appeared over mainland China, they'd take it out of the sky without a second thought. Government PR is hypocrisy and propaganda to the core; credibility, or any semblance of moral consistency, was never the expectation or the intent.

lynchfauci 4y ago

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