> Yeah, I'm a big fan of systemd but I can accept that when it first came out it was probably a lot worse than it is today. The first "large" distro to switch

> Yeah, I'm a big fan of systemd but I can accept that when it first came out it was probably a lot worse than it is today. The first "large" distro to switch from sysvinit to systemd was Arch, and that switch happened over ten years ago. The switch itself was quite rocky (the upgrade path was not particularly seamless, and while Arch users tend to be more tolerant of that sort of thing, it's worth mentioning). That said, even in 2012-2013, the end result once you completed the upgrade was significantly better than collectively expected. The original plan was to support both systemd and sysvinit (at least for a period of time), but that was quickly abandoned because not enough people wanted to actually maintain sysvinit packages, so support[0] ended up getting dropped very quickly. [0] Arch is a community project, so "support" is different from what you'd expect in (e.g.) RHEL, but it still has separations of what's considered supported and what's not.