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Likely a smart move. The F-150 Lightning is also a very good truck, and it gets to capitalize on the F-150 brand and customer base. They addressed a gap in th

Likely a smart move. The F-150 Lightning is also a very good truck, and it gets to capitalize on the F-150 brand and customer base. They addressed a gap in the market (smaller electric truck) rather than trying to go head-to-head with the biggest full-size truck brand in the industry. Smart move.

mbgerring 4y ago
The Rivian is a full-size truck and performs as good or better than the Lightning for similar tasks.
- alexb_ 4y ago
  What's the price comparison?
  - lh7777 4y ago
    Ford has been rapidly raising their prices (so it’s hard to keep track) but last I saw starting prices were $73k for the Rivian and $56k for the Lightning.
    - mbgerring 4y ago
      If you equip the $56k F150 to the level of the base model Rivian they’re about the same price.
- majormajor 4y ago
  That bed length disadvantage is pretty significant if you're coming to it from the "truck user" market vs the "weekend camper" or "soccer mom" market. I was interested in a Rivian until I saw one in person and saw how short that bed was. It wasn't the first spec I'd looked at on paper, but jumped out in-person. In that size I'd probably go cheap with a Maverick hybrid for now until there are more full-EV competitors.
  - tstrimple 4y ago
    Just looked it up and realized it isn't even close to passing the sheet good test. I suppose the expectation is to drive with the tailgate down? My minivan seems to be a more competent hauler of material (for my admittedly limited needs) than the Rivian.
  - slaw 4y ago
    I wouldn't count on Maverick to be available. All 2023 Mavericks were ordered in September 2022. I'll probably wait until 2025 to get one.
    - majormajor 4y ago
      I've seen some on dealer lots in the past month. YMMV on options/colors of course.
      - slaw 4y ago
        I just asked local dealer. The answer was. What you see on the lot is sold.
    - frumper 4y ago
      Rivian's aren't exactly available either.
  - jonstewart 4y ago
    The Rivian's marketed towards the "adventure" segment. It's definitely not intended as a work truck.

mbgerring 4y ago

The Rivian is a full-size truck and performs as good or better than the Lightning for similar tasks.

alexb_ 4y ago
What's the price comparison?
- lh7777 4y ago
  Ford has been rapidly raising their prices (so it’s hard to keep track) but last I saw starting prices were $73k for the Rivian and $56k for the Lightning.
  - mbgerring 4y ago
    If you equip the $56k F150 to the level of the base model Rivian they’re about the same price.
majormajor 4y ago
That bed length disadvantage is pretty significant if you're coming to it from the "truck user" market vs the "weekend camper" or "soccer mom" market. I was interested in a Rivian until I saw one in person and saw how short that bed was. It wasn't the first spec I'd looked at on paper, but jumped out in-person. In that size I'd probably go cheap with a Maverick hybrid for now until there are more full-EV competitors.
- tstrimple 4y ago
  Just looked it up and realized it isn't even close to passing the sheet good test. I suppose the expectation is to drive with the tailgate down? My minivan seems to be a more competent hauler of material (for my admittedly limited needs) than the Rivian.
- slaw 4y ago
  I wouldn't count on Maverick to be available. All 2023 Mavericks were ordered in September 2022. I'll probably wait until 2025 to get one.
  - majormajor 4y ago
    I've seen some on dealer lots in the past month. YMMV on options/colors of course.
    - slaw 4y ago
      I just asked local dealer. The answer was. What you see on the lot is sold.
  - frumper 4y ago
    Rivian's aren't exactly available either.
- jonstewart 4y ago
  The Rivian's marketed towards the "adventure" segment. It's definitely not intended as a work truck.