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I'll echo the other top-level threads and say it's the same technology as what happens in your car and it reads/replies to your messages. Sidenote: Can someone

I'll echo the other top-level threads and say it's the same technology as what happens in your car and it reads/replies to your messages. Sidenote: Can someone school me and tell me how Apple got this iMessage thing "right" when Blackberry/BBM didn't? Or is iMessage eventually going to go the way of BBM? I suspect it's more than just iMessage, like Apps (pre-BBM days) and tighter integration, but I'd like to start a dialogue here.

Kab1r 4y ago
iMessage succeeded because the iPhone maintained market share. BBM failed because people stopped buying Blackberries. I don't think any of iMessage's unique features materialy contributed to it's success.
- TSUTiger 4y ago
  Similarly to the iPhone (and Android) dethroning Blackberry, will there be a new "iPhone" -- and will we finally see iMessage on Windows/Android by then?
  - Kab1r 4y ago
    Apple's grip on the messaging space is pretty tight but I have hopes that the EU's DMA regulation will force to loosen it's grip. I've been using iMessage on Android, desktop and the web using Mautrix-iMessage and Beeper for a while now.
ics 4y ago
I don't think it was so much a Apple getting it right in a technical sense, rather that when it debuted US carriers were still charging real money for texting and Apple stopped tip-toeing around the issue when they had enough partners. Recall the iPhone was originally exclusive to AT&T, then AT&T + Verizon, then Sprint, T-Mobile, etc. Sure, many people were on omnibus family plans for $X00s/month, but those people grew up to get their own plans, actual fast data was becoming a thing, and priorities just shifted. Why would you pay $$ just to text, if it's just text? I'm having a hard time looking up what the average costs were for Blackberry, but by the time they were in the hands of the masses, kids to adults, the iPhone and iMessage had too much momentum.
- TSUTiger 4y ago
  I've been on the BB ecosystem and usually was between the major carriers. If I recall correctly, some carriers charged a small $10 premium for the Blackberry Data plan versus the normal data plan -- for others it was the same. BBM if you recall was the cool, exclusive phone (think early Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton), but then iPhone came along and had cool apps. They were Blackberry exclusive until they started losing share to Android and iPhone. By the time it was too late, you could use BBM on iPhone and Android. To me, iMessage is the same, (maybe even less than BBM was more like a chatroom too) but has reigned supreme for longer.

Kab1r 4y ago

iMessage succeeded because the iPhone maintained market share. BBM failed because people stopped buying Blackberries. I don't think any of iMessage's unique features materialy contributed to it's success.

TSUTiger 4y ago
Similarly to the iPhone (and Android) dethroning Blackberry, will there be a new "iPhone" -- and will we finally see iMessage on Windows/Android by then?
- Kab1r 4y ago
  Apple's grip on the messaging space is pretty tight but I have hopes that the EU's DMA regulation will force to loosen it's grip. I've been using iMessage on Android, desktop and the web using Mautrix-iMessage and Beeper for a while now.

ics 4y ago

I don't think it was so much a Apple getting it right in a technical sense, rather that when it debuted US carriers were still charging real money for texting and Apple stopped tip-toeing around the issue when they had enough partners. Recall the iPhone was originally exclusive to AT&T, then AT&T + Verizon, then Sprint, T-Mobile, etc. Sure, many people were on omnibus family plans for $X00s/month, but those people grew up to get their own plans, actual fast data was becoming a thing, and priorities just shifted. Why would you pay $$ just to text, if it's just text? I'm having a hard time looking up what the average costs were for Blackberry, but by the time they were in the hands of the masses, kids to adults, the iPhone and iMessage had too much momentum.

TSUTiger 4y ago
I've been on the BB ecosystem and usually was between the major carriers. If I recall correctly, some carriers charged a small $10 premium for the Blackberry Data plan versus the normal data plan -- for others it was the same. BBM if you recall was the cool, exclusive phone (think early Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton), but then iPhone came along and had cool apps. They were Blackberry exclusive until they started losing share to Android and iPhone. By the time it was too late, you could use BBM on iPhone and Android. To me, iMessage is the same, (maybe even less than BBM was more like a chatroom too) but has reigned supreme for longer.