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> Ubuntu and RedHat seem to be stuck in the past Like offering users a GUI click-through installer?

• csdvrx 4y ago
  > Like offering users a GUI click-through installer? I can't say if it's a joke or if you are serious. But if you like an installer, there's manjaro. Personally, I think install shouldn't need a click-through installer: it should be done by a commandline, to have a finer control over all the details. With Ubuntu, I only used the installer iso to type Control-Shift-A to get a terminal, install rsync and do my tinkering.
  • nortonham 4y ago
    you can't control details with a GUI?
    • csdvrx 4y ago
      Then can you tell me how to use the ubuntu GUI install to a ZFS encrypted root, without zsys, without grub but with a .efi packed kernel? Or how can you mount the efi partition to new systemd location /efi instead of /boot/efi (ex: if you're not using grub) without breaking the install? There are just too many choices for too many people. It's best not to play, and let it be a commandline problem. You rarely have to reinstall without another OS or boot media, so doing a chroot and copy-pasting the right commands (or rsync or untar a working master image) is just simpler.
  • alex_smart 4y ago
    I was obviously being sarcastic, but the sarcasm was earnest. For the most part, there shouldn't be any details to control. Just pick defaults that work for 99% users and let them get on with their life. >But if you like an installer, there's manjaro. Manjaro is not Arch. My comment was a criticism of Arch Linux, not Manjaro.