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I think this is a trojan integration. MS will promptly appeal to the regulators (and possibly litigate) as soon as Apple breaks this.

smoldesu 4y ago
Based on what, exaxtly?
- dento 4y ago
  Likely the new EU Digital Markets Act, which requires interoperabilty from messaging applications.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    I'm more curious what they mean by "Trojan integration". Considering how Microsoft has been a trusted Apple app developer for over 20 years, that's a pretty heavy accusation.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      And seeing that MS is using publicly available APIS that have been built into iOS since at least 2014
scarface74 4y ago
You realize that MS isn’t using some type of secret hack? iOS has supported sending messages and notifications over BT forever. It’s how third party watches were able to display notifications before the Apple Watch was introduced.
rootusrootus 4y ago
Why would Apple try to break it? It poses zero risk to their product line, and in fact might help a little. You still have to buy an iOS device to do iMessage.
- seabriez 4y ago
  Because that's what Apple has been doing for it's whole existence. Creating barriers to their devices outside of anything Apple. Honestly it's better to just not use Apple at all for these reasons.
chrisstanchak 4y ago
I agreed with you until I stopped and wondered...why? If Windows Phone were still around, this would make sense. Since it's not, I don't see Microsoft's incentive to get bogged down in litigation on messaging.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  What made you agree in the first place? It's an unfounded claim that (to me) appears to be rooted in Apple's "us against the world"-style marketing. Microsoft has written apps for Apple for decades - why would they betray them for poorly-made iMessage integration? I'm legitimately trying to understand how someone could come to this conclusion. Either Apple is complicit in allowing Microsoft's backdoor, or it's not trojan horse. It is obviously not the former.
hummus_bae 4y ago
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smoldesu 4y ago

Based on what, exaxtly?

dento 4y ago
Likely the new EU Digital Markets Act, which requires interoperabilty from messaging applications.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  I'm more curious what they mean by "Trojan integration". Considering how Microsoft has been a trusted Apple app developer for over 20 years, that's a pretty heavy accusation.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    And seeing that MS is using publicly available APIS that have been built into iOS since at least 2014

scarface74 4y ago

You realize that MS isn’t using some type of secret hack? iOS has supported sending messages and notifications over BT forever. It’s how third party watches were able to display notifications before the Apple Watch was introduced.

rootusrootus 4y ago

Why would Apple try to break it? It poses zero risk to their product line, and in fact might help a little. You still have to buy an iOS device to do iMessage.

seabriez 4y ago
Because that's what Apple has been doing for it's whole existence. Creating barriers to their devices outside of anything Apple. Honestly it's better to just not use Apple at all for these reasons.

chrisstanchak 4y ago

I agreed with you until I stopped and wondered...why? If Windows Phone were still around, this would make sense. Since it's not, I don't see Microsoft's incentive to get bogged down in litigation on messaging.

smoldesu 4y ago
What made you agree in the first place? It's an unfounded claim that (to me) appears to be rooted in Apple's "us against the world"-style marketing. Microsoft has written apps for Apple for decades - why would they betray them for poorly-made iMessage integration? I'm legitimately trying to understand how someone could come to this conclusion. Either Apple is complicit in allowing Microsoft's backdoor, or it's not trojan horse. It is obviously not the former.

hummus_bae 4y ago

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