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FWIW, this was the number one comment yesterday on the Reddit thread about this.

knodi123 4y ago
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- the_only_law 4y ago
  I think you’ve confused Reddit and youtube
  - jiggawatts 4y ago
    I thought Reddit is the “Internet”? And YouTube is the television…
jader201 4y ago
When I read the parent comment, I thought “Am I on Reddit?”. HN used to bury Reddit-like comments a while back, but it seems the Reddit influence is becoming more and more accepted on HN these days, as I’m starting to see them more at the top vs. the bottom of threads.
- c-fe 4y ago
  I agree. I was not sure if it was just me making this up, but I have been browsing hacker news for 2 years now, and yet I do noticed some kind of regime shift where reddit-like comments are more prominent. I dont like this development, as HN used to be a safe-space from the reddit hivemind, I wish HN moderation would more heavily moderate them. Edit: Thanks for the upvotes kind stranger!
- tarotuser 4y ago
  It's a great way to get up to the 500+ threshold as a full account here on HN.
- gjsman-1000 4y ago
  HN guidelines quote: "Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Whether it actually is, or is not, is irrelevant.
  - nickff 4y ago
    But Jader's account is over ten years old, as is mine, so I don't think you can credibly accuse them of being a noob. I happen to believe that HN has gotten substantially worse, and more Reddit-like over the 15 years I've been using it. That said, this change is likely because more people (from a broader spectrum of backgrounds) are using it, and the site's total utility has probably increased.
    - gjsman-1000 4y ago
      I didn't say it. The site rules do.
      - nickff 4y ago
        They're guidelines, and they say it's an illusion. The examples linked are to accounts only a few months old, from 14 years ago. At this point, some of us have been around long enough to understand what's going on.
    - ethanwillis 4y ago
      The total utility has increased for who? Not for me. Half the time when I want to have a more nuanced discussion or talk about primary sources it just doesn't happen.
- deleted 4y ago
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- drnonsense42 4y ago
  Serious question. Are there any alternatives to HN? Been reading HN on and off since 2010 and the decline to this is painfully obvious. Used to learn a lot from reading on here but now only check or post out of habit and lack of a high quality alternative.
jwilber 4y ago
Yeah these comments are awful. Someone even wrote, “take my upvote.” Not a good look for HN discus quality. Back on topic: I find this hard to believe, what happens if it repossess itself by mistake? Gets in an accident on the way home during said repo? Especially since nowadays most Fords are just oversized trucks. And why is this even a desired feature? Is the average Ford customer that untrustworthy? I’m curious what the expected amount of use for a feature like this is. In any case, autonomous driving isn’t far along enough yet for this to be practical and out in the streets, so I wonder how it even got approval.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  Aren't mistaken repossessions and accidents during repossession things that happen already? The used car market is incredibly predatory and full of the same car getting repeatedly repossessed from new owners.
  - jwilber 4y ago
    I’m sure they are, though probably pretty rare. But my comment isn’t about the occurrence of them, it’s about the muddied waters when a vehicle repo’s itself with no driver. Who’s at fault if the vehicle crashes? The purchaser of the vehicle clearly did not crash - they may not even know the vehicle was being repo’d. So then is the dealership or bank to blame? (If so, will this add to higher premiums?) Say a predatory dealership has some stake in the game. Given the asymmetry of information, maybe they will claim the car wasn’t being repo’d at all, rather the purchaser must have caused the damage and lied. What if no repo even occurs but the software malfunction? It just seems like such a mess.
- harvey9 4y ago
  I take it to mean they're writing this into the lease agreement in readiness for full autonomous driving. Desired feature for leasing companies and as to damage after the company takes remote possession I expect the same shenanigans you get when returning rentals.
goostavos 4y ago
These comments take me all the way back to Digg days. Please make it stop...
- Symbiote 4y ago
  Press the [–] button on the parent comment, or the Back button, or the downvote button.
jhoelzel 4y ago
i think is based on the fact that more devs have been raised by reddit by now ;) For instance: i found hn throuh r/hackernews

We can't keep reddit influence out entirely. But with heavy moderation, we can keep out the worst of it, and that will have to be good enough. If you liked my comment, please upvote and subscribe, and consider donating to my Patreon to have access to my future comments one day earlier.

the_only_law 4y ago
I think you’ve confused Reddit and youtube
- jiggawatts 4y ago
  I thought Reddit is the “Internet”? And YouTube is the television…

jader201 4y ago

When I read the parent comment, I thought “Am I on Reddit?”. HN used to bury Reddit-like comments a while back, but it seems the Reddit influence is becoming more and more accepted on HN these days, as I’m starting to see them more at the top vs. the bottom of threads.

c-fe 4y ago
I agree. I was not sure if it was just me making this up, but I have been browsing hacker news for 2 years now, and yet I do noticed some kind of regime shift where reddit-like comments are more prominent. I dont like this development, as HN used to be a safe-space from the reddit hivemind, I wish HN moderation would more heavily moderate them. Edit: Thanks for the upvotes kind stranger!
tarotuser 4y ago
It's a great way to get up to the 500+ threshold as a full account here on HN.
gjsman-1000 4y ago
HN guidelines quote: "Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Whether it actually is, or is not, is irrelevant.
- nickff 4y ago
  But Jader's account is over ten years old, as is mine, so I don't think you can credibly accuse them of being a noob. I happen to believe that HN has gotten substantially worse, and more Reddit-like over the 15 years I've been using it. That said, this change is likely because more people (from a broader spectrum of backgrounds) are using it, and the site's total utility has probably increased.
  - gjsman-1000 4y ago
    I didn't say it. The site rules do.
    - nickff 4y ago
      They're guidelines, and they say it's an illusion. The examples linked are to accounts only a few months old, from 14 years ago. At this point, some of us have been around long enough to understand what's going on.
  - ethanwillis 4y ago
    The total utility has increased for who? Not for me. Half the time when I want to have a more nuanced discussion or talk about primary sources it just doesn't happen.
deleted 4y ago
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drnonsense42 4y ago
Serious question. Are there any alternatives to HN? Been reading HN on and off since 2010 and the decline to this is painfully obvious. Used to learn a lot from reading on here but now only check or post out of habit and lack of a high quality alternative.

jwilber 4y ago

Yeah these comments are awful. Someone even wrote, “take my upvote.” Not a good look for HN discus quality. Back on topic: I find this hard to believe, what happens if it repossess itself by mistake? Gets in an accident on the way home during said repo? Especially since nowadays most Fords are just oversized trucks. And why is this even a desired feature? Is the average Ford customer that untrustworthy? I’m curious what the expected amount of use for a feature like this is. In any case, autonomous driving isn’t far along enough yet for this to be practical and out in the streets, so I wonder how it even got approval.

SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
Aren't mistaken repossessions and accidents during repossession things that happen already? The used car market is incredibly predatory and full of the same car getting repeatedly repossessed from new owners.
- jwilber 4y ago
  I’m sure they are, though probably pretty rare. But my comment isn’t about the occurrence of them, it’s about the muddied waters when a vehicle repo’s itself with no driver. Who’s at fault if the vehicle crashes? The purchaser of the vehicle clearly did not crash - they may not even know the vehicle was being repo’d. So then is the dealership or bank to blame? (If so, will this add to higher premiums?) Say a predatory dealership has some stake in the game. Given the asymmetry of information, maybe they will claim the car wasn’t being repo’d at all, rather the purchaser must have caused the damage and lied. What if no repo even occurs but the software malfunction? It just seems like such a mess.
harvey9 4y ago
I take it to mean they're writing this into the lease agreement in readiness for full autonomous driving. Desired feature for leasing companies and as to damage after the company takes remote possession I expect the same shenanigans you get when returning rentals.

goostavos 4y ago

These comments take me all the way back to Digg days. Please make it stop...

Symbiote 4y ago
Press the [–] button on the parent comment, or the Back button, or the downvote button.

jhoelzel 4y ago

i think is based on the fact that more devs have been raised by reddit by now ;) For instance: i found hn throuh r/hackernews