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If you’re on TikTok, you’re by default granting camera, microphone, and location permissions. If you’re addicted to TikTok you’re probably opening it up every t

If you’re on TikTok, you’re by default granting camera, microphone, and location permissions. If you’re addicted to TikTok you’re probably opening it up every time you have a few minutes to kill, including in government offices and etc.

Spivak 4y ago
No you're not, what? Is this some Android nonsense because I can just deny all of that on iOS. It doesn't even have the option of requesting location permission. If you want to make a Tiktok then yeah it's gonna need the camera and mic but outside of that it has never once triggered the mic or camera indicator while not taking a video.
- TheFragenTaken 4y ago
  It's not Android nonsense, it's just nonsense. If you don't post, TikTok requires zero permissions. Further, they only collect data related to how you use the app as per their privacy policy: https://www.tiktok.com/legal/page/eea/privacy-policy/en https://www.tiktok.com/legal/page/eea/privacy-policy/en.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    > they only collect data related to how you use the app Did you read it? Because that is not what it says. That page also explains how they: * fingerprint your device, and your biometrics, and ID your device even when you don't log in * collect your location information even if you deny OS permissions * collect information about your viewing habits * collect and share information from data brokers * share information with foreign companies in their corporate group, and comply with all legal requests. (and there's a link for more detail that returns a 404)
    - snehk 4y ago
      That's fairly normal data collection and nothing out of the ordinary at all.
      - kube-system 4y ago
        It is. The new part for most westerners is the political jurisdiction that those legal requests are beholden to.
        Spivak 4y ago
        Which I guess is "welcome to how everyone not in the US thinks about the US." So 100% it's a change for us but the rest of the world seems to have acclimated to it fine-ish.
        kube-system 4y ago
        I don't disagree with that sentiment. Although it is more understandable that many outside of the US/CN/RU might use foreign social networks, because they don't have any major domestic alternatives... whereas the US has several direct competitors to TikTok.
    - TheFragenTaken 4y ago
      What you list is exactly what I am saying. Moreover you are conjecturing by saying "deny OS permissions". Simply put, an app cannot do something that would require permissions, without it (unless exploiting vulns). Do you perhaps mean IP location? Which is incomplete, can be spoofed, or manipulated. I agree that no app should probably have this power, but what the original commenter posits, is that TikTok is overreaching. Where "over" is compared to everyone else (including western media). Even, most websites collect this information with or without consent.
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Spivak 4y ago

No you're not, what? Is this some Android nonsense because I can just deny all of that on iOS. It doesn't even have the option of requesting location permission. If you want to make a Tiktok then yeah it's gonna need the camera and mic but outside of that it has never once triggered the mic or camera indicator while not taking a video.

TheFragenTaken 4y ago
It's not Android nonsense, it's just nonsense. If you don't post, TikTok requires zero permissions. Further, they only collect data related to how you use the app as per their privacy policy: https://www.tiktok.com/legal/page/eea/privacy-policy/en https://www.tiktok.com/legal/page/eea/privacy-policy/en.
- kube-system 4y ago
  > they only collect data related to how you use the app Did you read it? Because that is not what it says. That page also explains how they: * fingerprint your device, and your biometrics, and ID your device even when you don't log in * collect your location information even if you deny OS permissions * collect information about your viewing habits * collect and share information from data brokers * share information with foreign companies in their corporate group, and comply with all legal requests. (and there's a link for more detail that returns a 404)
  - snehk 4y ago
    That's fairly normal data collection and nothing out of the ordinary at all.
    - kube-system 4y ago
      It is. The new part for most westerners is the political jurisdiction that those legal requests are beholden to.
      - Spivak 4y ago
        Which I guess is "welcome to how everyone not in the US thinks about the US." So 100% it's a change for us but the rest of the world seems to have acclimated to it fine-ish.
        kube-system 4y ago
        I don't disagree with that sentiment. Although it is more understandable that many outside of the US/CN/RU might use foreign social networks, because they don't have any major domestic alternatives... whereas the US has several direct competitors to TikTok.
  - TheFragenTaken 4y ago
    What you list is exactly what I am saying. Moreover you are conjecturing by saying "deny OS permissions". Simply put, an app cannot do something that would require permissions, without it (unless exploiting vulns). Do you perhaps mean IP location? Which is incomplete, can be spoofed, or manipulated. I agree that no app should probably have this power, but what the original commenter posits, is that TikTok is overreaching. Where "over" is compared to everyone else (including western media). Even, most websites collect this information with or without consent.
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