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I just read the wiki page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit Chilling. And I found this part extremely sad: >In

I just read the wiki page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit Chilling. And I found this part extremely sad: >In November 2015, Levison said that work on DIME was still progressing, although slower than he would like.[35] As of July 2016, posts to the Dark Mail Alliance forum suggest that all collaborators have left the project and Ladar has been working on DIME alone. Does it mean young people currently dont care about privacy? If there's one thing I applaud the previous generations and my generation (X) is the activism. People dislike Stallman because of his views, but he has the kind of balls that were needed. Were are the young 20s 30s guys revolting because of this? Were are the new Aaron Schartz, or DeCSS creators, or Napsters of today? Young people need to act and be impulsive.

mcsniff 4y ago
Well perhaps they saw what happened to the likes of Aaron Swartz and decided it wasn't a hill they wanted to *actually* die on. Young people don't need to act, people need to act, and they are. More and more people are simply withdrawing from digital society (and society as a whole) due to overbearing control mechanisms like this. We can see it in the subtexts of almost all current issues impacting society being reported on -- mental health crisis, increases in suicide and drug usage, refusing to work, the breaking down of interpersonal relationships. People are revolting, they're just not doing it in the normal way and I sympathize with them.
jacooper 4y ago
Its sad, but the privacy movement has grown in general, services like ProtonMail or Tutanota wouldn't exist without snowden and people wanting digital privacy. Also this discussion about privacy wouldn't happen if snowden didn't show how important it is, it probably would've been banned right after WhatsApp implemented it. I also think that privacy minded people are a big part of self-hosting enthusiasts.

mcsniff 4y ago

Well perhaps they saw what happened to the likes of Aaron Swartz and decided it wasn't a hill they wanted to *actually* die on. Young people don't need to act, people need to act, and they are. More and more people are simply withdrawing from digital society (and society as a whole) due to overbearing control mechanisms like this. We can see it in the subtexts of almost all current issues impacting society being reported on -- mental health crisis, increases in suicide and drug usage, refusing to work, the breaking down of interpersonal relationships. People are revolting, they're just not doing it in the normal way and I sympathize with them.

jacooper 4y ago

Its sad, but the privacy movement has grown in general, services like ProtonMail or Tutanota wouldn't exist without snowden and people wanting digital privacy. Also this discussion about privacy wouldn't happen if snowden didn't show how important it is, it probably would've been banned right after WhatsApp implemented it. I also think that privacy minded people are a big part of self-hosting enthusiasts.