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An interesting effect, even though they can't avoid calling young adults "lazy" even when that contradicts the rest of the article. I would say that office prin

by sp332 4y ago

An interesting effect, even though they can't avoid calling young adults "lazy" even when that contradicts the rest of the article. I would say that office printers are complicated, and people usually learn how to use them by watching other people in person. Also, I would hope this leads to less crap being printed in general. It mentions apps a lot, implying that users use apps because they are simple and can't be bothered to do anything complex. I would point out that Apple and Google spend billions and billions of dollars to get users to stay in the walled gardens.

temp2022account 4y ago
To be fair, scanning from a mobile device has almost zero discoverability. Few mobile OSes ship with a builtin "Scan" app in the same way that they all have a "Camera" app. What modern societies need is a tax on feature non-discoverability; essentially providing a financial incentive for tech companies to ensure 100% of their features have meaningful uses for their users and that users can find these. At that point whatever details are economic will fall out w/o extended arguments of "what is right/best way to do X".
- nix23 4y ago
  >Few mobile OSes ship with a builtin "Scan" app in the same way that they all have a "Camera" app. What is the problem? I had many systems where you just send a picture to a email then to a server, there it got OCR'd and converted to a PDF(A) or whatever, then send back to the sender-email as attachment or link and archived.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    If I emailed myself a JPEG from my phone I would absolutely have to look up the best way to convert it to a PDF. I don't know off the top of my head as I normally use a PDF scanning app.
    - nix23 4y ago
      Yeah it's not a manual thing (ABBYY FineReader Engine or FlexiCapture SDK) but at home i do it with pdfsandwich: http://www.tobias-elze.de/pdfsandwich/ http://www.tobias-elze.de/pdfsandwich/
      - ghaff 4y ago
        It's actually a bit odd thinking about it that it's not a common native phone function as capturing PDFs from paper is an incredibly common thing for people to need to do these days.
    - shantara 4y ago
      In iOS Files app you can export an image to PDF by long pressing it and selecting Quick Actions > Export to PDF
- ascagnel_ 4y ago
  > Few mobile OSes ship with a builtin "Scan" app in the same way that they all have a "Camera" app. Android[0] and iOS[1] both feature official apps (and in the case of iOS, the app is included in the default install) that can scan documents using the device's camera. [0]: https://support.google.com/drive/answer/3145835?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en https://support.google.com/drive/answer/3145835?co=GENIE.Pla... [1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210336 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210336

by sp332 4y ago

temp2022account 4y ago

To be fair, scanning from a mobile device has almost zero discoverability. Few mobile OSes ship with a builtin "Scan" app in the same way that they all have a "Camera" app. What modern societies need is a tax on feature non-discoverability; essentially providing a financial incentive for tech companies to ensure 100% of their features have meaningful uses for their users and that users can find these. At that point whatever details are economic will fall out w/o extended arguments of "what is right/best way to do X".

nix23 4y ago
>Few mobile OSes ship with a builtin "Scan" app in the same way that they all have a "Camera" app. What is the problem? I had many systems where you just send a picture to a email then to a server, there it got OCR'd and converted to a PDF(A) or whatever, then send back to the sender-email as attachment or link and archived.
- ghaff 4y ago
  If I emailed myself a JPEG from my phone I would absolutely have to look up the best way to convert it to a PDF. I don't know off the top of my head as I normally use a PDF scanning app.
  - nix23 4y ago
    Yeah it's not a manual thing (ABBYY FineReader Engine or FlexiCapture SDK) but at home i do it with pdfsandwich: http://www.tobias-elze.de/pdfsandwich/ http://www.tobias-elze.de/pdfsandwich/
    - ghaff 4y ago
      It's actually a bit odd thinking about it that it's not a common native phone function as capturing PDFs from paper is an incredibly common thing for people to need to do these days.
  - shantara 4y ago
    In iOS Files app you can export an image to PDF by long pressing it and selecting Quick Actions > Export to PDF
ascagnel_ 4y ago
> Few mobile OSes ship with a builtin "Scan" app in the same way that they all have a "Camera" app. Android[0] and iOS[1] both feature official apps (and in the case of iOS, the app is included in the default install) that can scan documents using the device's camera. [0]: https://support.google.com/drive/answer/3145835?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en https://support.google.com/drive/answer/3145835?co=GENIE.Pla... [1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210336 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210336