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I see your point, but no one uses Windows notepad for coding anymore. There are far worse crimes than having code structure that spans several files.

by xnickb 4y ago

Tomis02 4y ago
> There are far worse crimes than having code structure that spans several files. Sure, but what's the advantage of having your code split over several files? Yes, you can jump between them with an IDE, but that's still a disruption, and it makes it harder to see common patterns that can help you simplify the code. As demonstrated in the video, splitting up the switch into multiple classes only hurts readability.
- kaba0 4y ago
  You are only seeing a screenful of code at any time, no matter if they are in one file or multiple ones. I much prefer each “section” of code if you will having a specific name/location I can associate it with, than scrolling as a mad-man. Yeah, I know about markers/closable functions/opening multiple sections of the same file/etc, but at that point whose workflow is more complex?
TeMPOraL 4y ago
> I see your point, but no one uses Windows notepad for coding anymore. Did I miss an IDE that inlines all those things for you automatically? Because ones that only give you a "jump to definition", or maybe a one-at-a-time preview in a context popup, are not much better than Notepad++. You still don't get to see all the relevant things at the same time.
- kaba0 4y ago
  Most real world applications won’t have `print “red”` or the like under a specific implementation. Good luck inlining 6 1000 lines-implementations into a single switch statement.
  - TeMPOraL 4y ago
    The "project" vs. "external" vs. "system" library conceptual distinction exists for a reason. But of course you want presentation-level inlining to be semi-automated, much like autocomplete and jump to definition.

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I see your point, but no one uses Windows notepad for coding anymore. There are far worse crimes than having code structure that spans several files.

by xnickb 4y ago

I see your point, but no one uses Windows notepad for coding anymore. There are far worse crimes than having code structure that spans several files.

Tomis02 4y ago
> There are far worse crimes than having code structure that spans several files. Sure, but what's the advantage of having your code split over several files? Yes, you can jump between them with an IDE, but that's still a disruption, and it makes it harder to see common patterns that can help you simplify the code. As demonstrated in the video, splitting up the switch into multiple classes only hurts readability.
- kaba0 4y ago
  You are only seeing a screenful of code at any time, no matter if they are in one file or multiple ones. I much prefer each “section” of code if you will having a specific name/location I can associate it with, than scrolling as a mad-man. Yeah, I know about markers/closable functions/opening multiple sections of the same file/etc, but at that point whose workflow is more complex?
TeMPOraL 4y ago
> I see your point, but no one uses Windows notepad for coding anymore. Did I miss an IDE that inlines all those things for you automatically? Because ones that only give you a "jump to definition", or maybe a one-at-a-time preview in a context popup, are not much better than Notepad++. You still don't get to see all the relevant things at the same time.
- kaba0 4y ago
  Most real world applications won’t have `print “red”` or the like under a specific implementation. Good luck inlining 6 1000 lines-implementations into a single switch statement.
  - TeMPOraL 4y ago
    The "project" vs. "external" vs. "system" library conceptual distinction exists for a reason. But of course you want presentation-level inlining to be semi-automated, much like autocomplete and jump to definition.