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I don't believe that man has an intrinsic right to liberty - just that societies where basic human rights (including various freedoms) are protected by the stat
by wizofaus 4y ago
I don't believe that man has an intrinsic right to liberty - just that societies where basic human rights (including various freedoms) are protected by the state are more likely to flourish and grant their citizens more meaningful and fairer existence. I don't believe we've come close yet to perfecting exactly what those rights should be and how they should be protected however.
- WalterBright 4y ago> I don't believe that man has an intrinsic right to liberty Then you wouldn't be complaining about injustice if you were enslaved, right?
- wizofaus 4y agoWell there are plenty of injustices in the world, most of them we can do little about. If my owners gave me the ability the live a decent and meaningful life, that potentially included the opportunities to do things that would be unrealistic if I had to fend entirely for myself, then I wouldn't necessarily complain, no. But if the state failed to protect me against mistreatment by said owners, then I would absolutely have reason to protest and demand better.
- WalterBright 4y agoYou're calling it an "injustice", so it looks like you're agreeing with me.
- HDThoreaun 4y agoI believe having slaves is wrong, that doesn't make it a fact. I have no reason to believe there is any natural law dictating that, it's nothing but a social construct we have agreed to.