The fact that Rust has an ecosystem kind of hobbles it. C and C++ are often used in basically all the other ecosystems because that's what they are for. C and

The fact that Rust has an ecosystem kind of hobbles it. C and C++ are often used in basically all the other ecosystems because that's what they are for. C and C++ don't have a fear of package management. On the contrary, they're packaged in more ecosystems than probably anything else: gems, wheels, rpms, debs, nix, conan, vcpkg, you name it. The hard part of C and C++ packaging is making it easy for projects to integrate in all those ecosystems. If carbon goes the same route as Rust, Go, etc. by standing up yet another hermetic ecosystem, it will be very clear that it's not really trying to replace C and C++; it will merely be trying to carve out a new niche.