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With sites like piratebay,org and btjunkie.org, in some sense, "show business" as an industry is affected. The number of people hitting the cinema would be less

With sites like piratebay,org and btjunkie.org, in some sense, "show business" as an industry is affected. The number of people hitting the cinema would be less since most movie goers would just wait for the "copy" to be available for download. But the workers behind show business aren't really being let out by their employers, so I don't think it's such a huge problem.

geuis 15y ago
What you've said is completely annecdotal and completely wrong. As evidenced by the article from Forbes and the original article at Arstechnica, the number of movies being made and the number of people paying to see movies is higher than it was 10 years ago before file copying really got stated.
- teamonkey 15y ago
  In the last few years there has been a big push in the movie industry to produce movies that are better in or more suited to the theatre than at home. 3D, Imax, etc. This is a direct response to piracy (and secondarily to people who wait to get the Blu-ray). I think it's misleading to say that the spread of piracy is responsible for increased revenues, when the products themselves have been changing in a direction designed to generate more revenue in the cinema.
  - daintynews 15y ago
    I completely agree. I'd like to point out as well that even movies that aren't supposed to be in 3D are now in 3D. So really, these sites are the are the sole reason of increased revenues
    - daintynews 15y ago
      I mean, not sole reasons
Vivtek 15y ago
most movie goers would just wait Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Moviegoers love to go to movies, and movie downloaders are the same guys that wait a week in line for the new Star Wars. Perfect customers, in other words. Did you know our town had a second-run movie theater until last year? One of the last towns to have one. They were packed all the time - but the new owners of all the theaters in town closed it because people could watch movies on the cheap instead of paying eight bucks at the plex. Now everything's only open for about five weeks and is then gone forever. I'm a busy man. My schedule often required going to the second-run because I literally cannot focus on chunks of time of five weeks to see a movie. Now, my only recourse is to wait a year or so for the studios to release a version of that movie I can buy, or pirate it. Sometimes I pirate it, even though I freaking loathe Bittorrent and the hassle involved in finding a good pirate copy. But I don't have a choice. And I love movies. I love Pirates of the Caribbean - my wife actually saw the first one in the cinema nearly thirty times. Once she showed up five minutes late for the evening showing and the attendant just laughed and waved her into the theater instead of opening up the cash register again, knowing she'd be back the following night. So after it closed in the movie theater, I downloaded it to continue watching it - then we bought it as soon as they decided to sell it to us, wore out one copy, and bought another. Do you think I'm atypical? Yet Hollywood thinks I cheated them by downloading Pirates of the Caribbean. If movie attendance is down, it's not because people are waiting to see a pirated videocam version they downloaded, it's because real prices have doubled or tripled and people simply no longer have the money to go to the movies as often. In a recession, no less. Next the MPAA is just going to garnish everybody's wages on suspicion of piracy. (If they actually do that, please don't blame me for thinking of it first...)
- batista 15y ago
  Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Moviegoers love to go to movies, and movie downloaders are the same guys that wait a week in line for the new Star Wars. Perfect customers, in other words. I doubt those perfect customers are representative of the average movie goer. Surely very few people "wait a week in line for the new Star Wars".
  - yassim 15y ago

geuis 15y ago

What you've said is completely annecdotal and completely wrong. As evidenced by the article from Forbes and the original article at Arstechnica, the number of movies being made and the number of people paying to see movies is higher than it was 10 years ago before file copying really got stated.

teamonkey 15y ago
In the last few years there has been a big push in the movie industry to produce movies that are better in or more suited to the theatre than at home. 3D, Imax, etc. This is a direct response to piracy (and secondarily to people who wait to get the Blu-ray). I think it's misleading to say that the spread of piracy is responsible for increased revenues, when the products themselves have been changing in a direction designed to generate more revenue in the cinema.
- daintynews 15y ago
  I completely agree. I'd like to point out as well that even movies that aren't supposed to be in 3D are now in 3D. So really, these sites are the are the sole reason of increased revenues
  - daintynews 15y ago
    I mean, not sole reasons

Vivtek 15y ago

most movie goers would just wait Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Moviegoers love to go to movies, and movie downloaders are the same guys that wait a week in line for the new Star Wars. Perfect customers, in other words. Did you know our town had a second-run movie theater until last year? One of the last towns to have one. They were packed all the time - but the new owners of all the theaters in town closed it because people could watch movies on the cheap instead of paying eight bucks at the plex. Now everything's only open for about five weeks and is then gone forever. I'm a busy man. My schedule often required going to the second-run because I literally cannot focus on chunks of time of five weeks to see a movie. Now, my only recourse is to wait a year or so for the studios to release a version of that movie I can buy, or pirate it. Sometimes I pirate it, even though I freaking loathe Bittorrent and the hassle involved in finding a good pirate copy. But I don't have a choice. And I love movies. I love Pirates of the Caribbean - my wife actually saw the first one in the cinema nearly thirty times. Once she showed up five minutes late for the evening showing and the attendant just laughed and waved her into the theater instead of opening up the cash register again, knowing she'd be back the following night. So after it closed in the movie theater, I downloaded it to continue watching it - then we bought it as soon as they decided to sell it to us, wore out one copy, and bought another. Do you think I'm atypical? Yet Hollywood thinks I cheated them by downloading Pirates of the Caribbean. If movie attendance is down, it's not because people are waiting to see a pirated videocam version they downloaded, it's because real prices have doubled or tripled and people simply no longer have the money to go to the movies as often. In a recession, no less. Next the MPAA is just going to garnish everybody's wages on suspicion of piracy. (If they actually do that, please don't blame me for thinking of it first...)

batista 15y ago
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Moviegoers love to go to movies, and movie downloaders are the same guys that wait a week in line for the new Star Wars. Perfect customers, in other words. I doubt those perfect customers are representative of the average movie goer. Surely very few people "wait a week in line for the new Star Wars".
- yassim 15y ago