> Money is not everything I don't think that's true for the VC-funded startups. I actually expect to hear that from the farmers I have known in my life. With t

> Money is not everything I don't think that's true for the VC-funded startups. I actually expect to hear that from the farmers I have known in my life. With the margins I saw, they were not in it for money. They would pride themselves in being self-sufficient, living off the land, and co-living with the nature. ABF -- Always Be Farming -- they say. I have yet to see an actual environmental lifecycle analysis of these "disruptive" vertical farms. That amount of steel, precious metal, and plastic that goes into making a facility has high upfront Embodied Carbon. Can that really have a pay back compared to when you use the sun and the land? How many acres of land can you really replace with a farm on top of an abandoned parking lot? What they say about vertical farms is way too rosy. They must compare their methods with borderline medieval farming techniques to calculate some 99% efficiency improvement. Farmers today care as much about biodiversity, ecology, and sustainability as anybody else, if not more.