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Adding to 2.: Reagan. My mother, born in 1961, adores him for some reason. I was born in 1979. Hell, my father has a room of trinkets to/about him. I’m a le

Adding to 2.: Reagan. My mother, born in 1961, adores him for some reason. I was born in 1979. Hell, my father has a room of trinkets to/about him. I’m a leftist. Reminding them he was an evil man and his wife was a wack-a-doo is.. fun.

blue039 4y ago
> Reminding them he was an evil man and his wife was a wack-a-doo is.. fun. Why do you feel the need to do this? Does it provide you some personal validation that lets you sleep better at night? That you "bested" your parents? I think your issue is deeper than politics. Militant atheists get the same kicks "besting" Christians. It's not a healthy way to go about living.
- sacnoradhq 4y ago
  I think you maybe projecting an unfavorable interpretation. I don't think it's fun. It's probably depressing and shameful to be related to close family members who are potentially unreasonable, ignorant, violent, and more. My father brow-beat his dying parents to extract large sums of money away from my mother who was abandoned crippled and broke by her dirtbag 2nd ex. Painful cancer isn't good enough for him. I never want to talk to that sack of shit #1 or mom's sack of shit ex #2. Not worth another sentence when mom is a lovely human being who encountered a great deal of misfortune. Perhaps instead of judging based on limited information, you should first look at your own circumstances and mind your own. Edit: There is a teen-juvenile tendency of some people to annoy their parents. Those who grew up realize their parents were just people, not mythological, one-dimensional figures. At the age of majority, an inconvenient modern truth is familial relations become optional as opposed to required because survival assistance usually ends unless there's a failure to launch. Wise parents should aim to promote self-reliance, 360-degree honesty, considerateness, courage, BS-detecting critical thinking, and confidence as much as possible.
  - blue039 4y ago
    > It's probably depressing and shameful to be related to close family members who are potentially unreasonable, ignorant, violent, and more. First, get help. Liking a political candidate does not make you unhinged and violent. > Perhaps instead of judging based on limited information, you should first look at your own circumstances and mind your own. It's a public forum, sorry I ruffled feathers identifying a problem child that somehow made it to adulthood. I mean, their parents must've done something right. Except for the part where they raised an ingrate that judges them entirely on their affinity to a particularly, extremely popular nationally, candidate. > Wise parents should aim to promote self-reliance, 360-degree honesty, considerateness, courage, BS-detecting critical thinking, and confidence as much as possible. Indeed, the person's parent's failed in one aspect. They raised a person who is so high huffing their own, admittedly leftist, farts they cannot even drop the veil for a minute to enjoy the likely little time they have left with the people they've known their whole life. It's pathetic. I say that because there is no word in the English language with more power that I know. It's beyond pathetic. The "dangerous, violent" person is the poster. I am sure you could say the wrong thing to them at a bar (perhaps "trump did some good") and get yourself into a knife fight. I've ran into these people before. They're better off siloed in a room with padding on the walls than out on the street. Perhaps with a hit reel from 2008-2012 Obama speeches playing repeat. If unhinged leftists were capable of anything California wouldn't be having a mass exodus and the streets wouldn't smell like excrement. And yes, they do. I travel there weekly.
- flandish 4y ago
  First: I am a Christian. I can be a leftist and a Christian, (look up Dorothy Day) and my comment made no mention of faith. You brought that up and it says more about your worry or notions than anything else. Second - “fun” because it is. They are both close in age with me, and we have great rapport with this stuff. Heck, the three Chomsky books my dad bought me last month say plenty. Third: Reagan was a fucking terrible president and if I didn’t focus most of my history on how evil Kissinger was, I’d have more to write about ole Ronnie.
  - blue039 4y ago
    I see that politics is your entire personality. Sorry for offending something so deeply meaningful to you. I used it as an example and your moronic pseudo-intellectual deep-read into the psychology of my post lead to your conclusion.
    - flandish 4y ago
      What gives you the impression its my personality? Stop being a troll. Grow up.
sacnoradhq 4y ago
It's not difficult to see (no pun intended) that it's manufacturing consent (and sentiment, purchasing preferences, and life decisions) by the authority of the boob tube. '78 myself, social democratic Marxist now having been lied-to early by the billionaire con artists of the libertarians, disappointed by elitist suits of the neoliberal (Clintons), and utopian anarcho-syndicalists. My father was always a Murican Trumpists waiting for his day to open carry and strut the flag behind a Ford pickup. It's sad to say my mother has/had vacillating views, is a terrible judge of character, and was/is easily influenced by anyone around. Here's my rant no one cares about for the year: The answer isn't burn everything down, blame migrants, or irrational exuberance over Obama; it's look in the mirror and compare how the rest of the world does things better. American exceptionalism and triumphalism is a resting-on-laurels prescription for a has-been recounting their high school glory days to another junky in the alley with a needle in their arm. "Defund the police", "stop and frisk", "trickledown economics", and "Big gubberment bad" are all stupid ideas. That there are QAnon-adherents, big coal DINOs, LGBT-washed DINO corporate phonies, CV liars, and worse representing The People, taking a salary from them, acting as tools of billionaires, and sitting in the same building as Greg Casar or Ro Khanna is shameful and disrespectful. It's clear to anyone not a moron that neither US political party can deliver anything substantial except more handouts to billionaires. Bernie Sanders was Henry A. Wallace'd because he was too weak, too nice, and let Clinton steal WV even though she completely lost every county. The only way is for millions of people to (nonviolently, obviously) take over Washington and convince those who support this corrupt corrupt regime to press the reset button. SCOTUS is completely in the tank for the Republicans and will deliver them cake on a silver platter for years. Again, Obama was weak and went over to the side of the corporatist neoliberals. Campaign finance reform is a pipe dream because too many politicians enjoy the benefits of lobbyists' and billionaires' cash and do their bidding. The US isn't a democracy (or a representative republic), it's a kleptocratic plutocracy. The middle-lower classes should be extremely motivated and organized to change the situation as tens of trillions of wealth were transferred (stolen) from them over the past 50 years, but no, Jan 9th was the Tea Party's "winning lottery ticket", an orgasm of disorganized, misdirected violence like that drunk, conspiracy theory-spouting uncle in most families. Voting in such a system legitimizes it when effort is better spent figuring out how to wrest control of it: 1. crowdfund billions to buy leverage to clean it up. 2. ten million people marching in DC. 3. (Maybe your idea here.) If you don't want power to go to the rich, TV celebrities, or elect a populist fascist, then limited time sortition "jury duty" by competent civil administrator candidates as the Athenians did is possibly the only way to divvy out most roles. Until then, enjoy manufactured popularity contests. https://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20materials/Gilens%20and%20Page/Gilens%20and%20Page%202014-Testing%20Theories%203-7-14.pdf https://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20mater... PS: Care homes are the most likely hotbeds of neofascist tendencies.

blue039 4y ago

> Reminding them he was an evil man and his wife was a wack-a-doo is.. fun. Why do you feel the need to do this? Does it provide you some personal validation that lets you sleep better at night? That you "bested" your parents? I think your issue is deeper than politics. Militant atheists get the same kicks "besting" Christians. It's not a healthy way to go about living.

sacnoradhq 4y ago
I think you maybe projecting an unfavorable interpretation. I don't think it's fun. It's probably depressing and shameful to be related to close family members who are potentially unreasonable, ignorant, violent, and more. My father brow-beat his dying parents to extract large sums of money away from my mother who was abandoned crippled and broke by her dirtbag 2nd ex. Painful cancer isn't good enough for him. I never want to talk to that sack of shit #1 or mom's sack of shit ex #2. Not worth another sentence when mom is a lovely human being who encountered a great deal of misfortune. Perhaps instead of judging based on limited information, you should first look at your own circumstances and mind your own. Edit: There is a teen-juvenile tendency of some people to annoy their parents. Those who grew up realize their parents were just people, not mythological, one-dimensional figures. At the age of majority, an inconvenient modern truth is familial relations become optional as opposed to required because survival assistance usually ends unless there's a failure to launch. Wise parents should aim to promote self-reliance, 360-degree honesty, considerateness, courage, BS-detecting critical thinking, and confidence as much as possible.
- blue039 4y ago
  > It's probably depressing and shameful to be related to close family members who are potentially unreasonable, ignorant, violent, and more. First, get help. Liking a political candidate does not make you unhinged and violent. > Perhaps instead of judging based on limited information, you should first look at your own circumstances and mind your own. It's a public forum, sorry I ruffled feathers identifying a problem child that somehow made it to adulthood. I mean, their parents must've done something right. Except for the part where they raised an ingrate that judges them entirely on their affinity to a particularly, extremely popular nationally, candidate. > Wise parents should aim to promote self-reliance, 360-degree honesty, considerateness, courage, BS-detecting critical thinking, and confidence as much as possible. Indeed, the person's parent's failed in one aspect. They raised a person who is so high huffing their own, admittedly leftist, farts they cannot even drop the veil for a minute to enjoy the likely little time they have left with the people they've known their whole life. It's pathetic. I say that because there is no word in the English language with more power that I know. It's beyond pathetic. The "dangerous, violent" person is the poster. I am sure you could say the wrong thing to them at a bar (perhaps "trump did some good") and get yourself into a knife fight. I've ran into these people before. They're better off siloed in a room with padding on the walls than out on the street. Perhaps with a hit reel from 2008-2012 Obama speeches playing repeat. If unhinged leftists were capable of anything California wouldn't be having a mass exodus and the streets wouldn't smell like excrement. And yes, they do. I travel there weekly.
flandish 4y ago
First: I am a Christian. I can be a leftist and a Christian, (look up Dorothy Day) and my comment made no mention of faith. You brought that up and it says more about your worry or notions than anything else. Second - “fun” because it is. They are both close in age with me, and we have great rapport with this stuff. Heck, the three Chomsky books my dad bought me last month say plenty. Third: Reagan was a fucking terrible president and if I didn’t focus most of my history on how evil Kissinger was, I’d have more to write about ole Ronnie.
- blue039 4y ago
  I see that politics is your entire personality. Sorry for offending something so deeply meaningful to you. I used it as an example and your moronic pseudo-intellectual deep-read into the psychology of my post lead to your conclusion.
  - flandish 4y ago
    What gives you the impression its my personality? Stop being a troll. Grow up.

sacnoradhq 4y ago

It's not difficult to see (no pun intended) that it's manufacturing consent (and sentiment, purchasing preferences, and life decisions) by the authority of the boob tube. '78 myself, social democratic Marxist now having been lied-to early by the billionaire con artists of the libertarians, disappointed by elitist suits of the neoliberal (Clintons), and utopian anarcho-syndicalists. My father was always a Murican Trumpists waiting for his day to open carry and strut the flag behind a Ford pickup. It's sad to say my mother has/had vacillating views, is a terrible judge of character, and was/is easily influenced by anyone around. Here's my rant no one cares about for the year: The answer isn't burn everything down, blame migrants, or irrational exuberance over Obama; it's look in the mirror and compare how the rest of the world does things better. American exceptionalism and triumphalism is a resting-on-laurels prescription for a has-been recounting their high school glory days to another junky in the alley with a needle in their arm. "Defund the police", "stop and frisk", "trickledown economics", and "Big gubberment bad" are all stupid ideas. That there are QAnon-adherents, big coal DINOs, LGBT-washed DINO corporate phonies, CV liars, and worse representing The People, taking a salary from them, acting as tools of billionaires, and sitting in the same building as Greg Casar or Ro Khanna is shameful and disrespectful. It's clear to anyone not a moron that neither US political party can deliver anything substantial except more handouts to billionaires. Bernie Sanders was Henry A. Wallace'd because he was too weak, too nice, and let Clinton steal WV even though she completely lost every county. The only way is for millions of people to (nonviolently, obviously) take over Washington and convince those who support this corrupt corrupt regime to press the reset button. SCOTUS is completely in the tank for the Republicans and will deliver them cake on a silver platter for years. Again, Obama was weak and went over to the side of the corporatist neoliberals. Campaign finance reform is a pipe dream because too many politicians enjoy the benefits of lobbyists' and billionaires' cash and do their bidding. The US isn't a democracy (or a representative republic), it's a kleptocratic plutocracy. The middle-lower classes should be extremely motivated and organized to change the situation as tens of trillions of wealth were transferred (stolen) from them over the past 50 years, but no, Jan 9th was the Tea Party's "winning lottery ticket", an orgasm of disorganized, misdirected violence like that drunk, conspiracy theory-spouting uncle in most families. Voting in such a system legitimizes it when effort is better spent figuring out how to wrest control of it: 1. crowdfund billions to buy leverage to clean it up. 2. ten million people marching in DC. 3. (Maybe your idea here.) If you don't want power to go to the rich, TV celebrities, or elect a populist fascist, then limited time sortition "jury duty" by competent civil administrator candidates as the Athenians did is possibly the only way to divvy out most roles. Until then, enjoy manufactured popularity contests. https://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20materials/Gilens%20and%20Page/Gilens%20and%20Page%202014-Testing%20Theories%203-7-14.pdf https://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20mater... PS: Care homes are the most likely hotbeds of neofascist tendencies.