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How does that not make sense? It's totally possible to have an apartment that's luxurious. Luxury doesn't mean "large" - look at luxury cars, or watches. Most o

How does that not make sense? It's totally possible to have an apartment that's luxurious. Luxury doesn't mean "large" - look at luxury cars, or watches. Most other major luxury products are almost defined by how expensive they are and how they're not meant for families. Luxury is defined by it being more expensive and presumably nicer to be in than the average thing it's competing with. A luxury apartment isn't trying to be a house, any more than a luxury house is trying to be a hotel. That's not to say that most "luxury" apartments would actually qualify as "luxury" in the sense of most other luxury goods, but they are generally nicer than other apartments in the area, or at least newer.

hackerlight 4y ago
> Luxury is defined by it being more expensive and presumably nicer to be in than the average thing it's competing with. It's an intentional decision (one often done with malice where the objective is rhetorical persuasion) to run this comparison only with other apartments and not with general housing stock which is the real comparison that should be made. NIMBYs, in a stroke of genius, have managed to brand apartments that can barely fit a family as "luxury", yet the median house which costs more is just the "modest family home" that is being oppressed by the ghastly shadows imposed by said luxury apartments filled with, presumably, the rich elite, because who other than the rich elite could afford to live in "luxurious" dwellings? It is rhetorical trickery top to bottom with the objective of worsening the housing crisis and therefore adding to the suffering in the world.
- noirbot 4y ago
  That is ascribing a lot of collusion and malice to what seems to be a pretty simple situation. I lived in some "luxury" apartments, and they were, legitimately, nicer than the other ones I'd lived in, although not especially "luxurious". But they weren't called "luxury" by some local NIMBY group, it was literally in the name of the company I was writing checks to to pay my rent. It made them sound nicer and fancier than the less nice apartments across the street. It's trickery, but the banal trickery of marketing a product that you want to sell at a higher price. I doubt they were off sitting in some room laughing about how miserable they were making the world when they named my apartment building. I'm not a family, I don't have one, I don't want a house, I want a nice apartment. Is catering to what I'm looking for "causing suffering in the world"?

hackerlight 4y ago

> Luxury is defined by it being more expensive and presumably nicer to be in than the average thing it's competing with. It's an intentional decision (one often done with malice where the objective is rhetorical persuasion) to run this comparison only with other apartments and not with general housing stock which is the real comparison that should be made. NIMBYs, in a stroke of genius, have managed to brand apartments that can barely fit a family as "luxury", yet the median house which costs more is just the "modest family home" that is being oppressed by the ghastly shadows imposed by said luxury apartments filled with, presumably, the rich elite, because who other than the rich elite could afford to live in "luxurious" dwellings? It is rhetorical trickery top to bottom with the objective of worsening the housing crisis and therefore adding to the suffering in the world.

noirbot 4y ago
That is ascribing a lot of collusion and malice to what seems to be a pretty simple situation. I lived in some "luxury" apartments, and they were, legitimately, nicer than the other ones I'd lived in, although not especially "luxurious". But they weren't called "luxury" by some local NIMBY group, it was literally in the name of the company I was writing checks to to pay my rent. It made them sound nicer and fancier than the less nice apartments across the street. It's trickery, but the banal trickery of marketing a product that you want to sell at a higher price. I doubt they were off sitting in some room laughing about how miserable they were making the world when they named my apartment building. I'm not a family, I don't have one, I don't want a house, I want a nice apartment. Is catering to what I'm looking for "causing suffering in the world"?