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Linux-factory: A framework used to create custom Linux Debian operating systems

189 points by nixcraft 4y ago

clayrisser 4y ago
Hey just noticed all the activity here. I’m the author of Linux factory. I just opened up issues on GitHub so more discussion can happen there.
- tannhaeuser 4y ago
  Congrats and thanks. Not sure people interested in Debian want to contribute to the borg producing copilot and chatgpt based on their work on gh, among other things.
adampzakaria 4y ago
This sounds like something I'd be very interested in, though I'm not sure what it is. It'd be great if I could easily customize Debian (i3, vim, zsh, chrome, etc.) and distribute / share it with others. But I'm not sure what this does and cannot tell even after reading the first few sections of the README.
- effie 4y ago
  See also https://www.refracta.org/docs/readme.refractasnapshot.txt https://www.refracta.org/docs/readme.refractasnapshot.txt
  - adampzakaria 4y ago
    Ah, very cool. Thank you :)
  - clayrisser 4y ago
    The reason I didn’t use refracta is because I wanted a reproducible approach.
- clayrisser 4y ago
  As the author of Linux Factory, that’s exactly what I built it for. I would love to help guide you and get you started on your project. Please create an issue in the GitHub project and I’ll further guide you there.
gdgghhhhh 4y ago
I wonder how it compares to ELBE. https://elbe-rfs.org/ https://elbe-rfs.org/
alangibson 4y ago
Seems vaguely similar to Armbian?
- lproven 4y ago
  Er... in what way?
- palata 4y ago
  To be fair, there are tens of projects out there dedicated to creating custom rootfs...
TeeMassive 4y ago
It's like Yocto but made saner (although with less options)
- tleb_ 4y ago
  I'd be interested in knowing what you consider not sane in Yocto?
  - palata 4y ago
    Anything with a learning curve steeper than "throw your files in a Dockerfile and call it a day" unfortunately tends to be considered "not sane". There is a whole market when it comes to making new tools for people who "don't have the time to RTFM". And then for tools helping to use those tools. (To be clear: I really like Yocto)
    - theossuary 4y ago
      Any recommendations on getting started with Yocto? I want to build a custom image for a Jetson, and Yocto seems like the only good option.
      - kkielhofner 4y ago
        Word of warning - I don't know how much you've looked into it yet but depending on your needs from Jetson the Nvidia stack gets really complicated really quickly. I know people have frustrations with Nivida supplied Jetpack but when you end up trying to figure out how to roll your own support for TensorRT, DLA, cuDNN, etc (on ARM64, of course) many people bail and run screaming back to Jetpack.
      - palata 4y ago
        IMO, start small, maybe with a RPi. Possibly Nvidia provides layers for the Jetson (I haven't seen that), but in my experience the risk is that those layers are super complicated (and fairly messy). I think it's better to learn how Yocto works first, rather than learning how to hack the layers provided by the manufacturer. Also it helped me to learn a bit how other distros are built: I tried Linux from scratch, then got interested in Alpine, and then in how PostmarketOS got started based on Alpine tooling. After all, a distro is "just" a bunch of packages, which are archives containing files that get decompressed in the right place. Yocto provides tools to create those packages (just like mainstream Linux distro). What Yocto adds on top is tools to manage cross-compiling (toolchains, a way to create an SDK, etc) and a system of layering that helps organizing them ("those packages go specifically with the RPi, so I will put them in a layer called "RPi" and I will call that a "BSP"", etc). Don't get me wrong, there is quite a lot. But there is no magic, the goal is always to create packages that will put the right files in the right place :-). Good luck!
temp2302271148 4y ago
I prefer the approach of AntiX and MX Linux. Start from a clean live distro, mod it to your taste, master it to a new Live ISO. You can also start from a normal MX/antiX system and make a live ISO backup. You can also install those ISOs. Systemd is optional on MX and disabled by default. LOTS of live and remaster options on those systems. I find myself more on live than on installed systems now. It's basically like working with FS snapshots. A similar distro with remaster tools based on Devuan is Refracta. There used to be the Debian Live project but it looks obsolete. EDIT: sorry I misread the bug reports, it is OK https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/index.en.html https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-man...
- rektide 4y ago
  There's almost no circumstance I can imagine where giving up a solid usable well known OS sounds tempting to me. Getting Debian running on PogoPlugs and OpenWRT devices has been a repeated ordeal I'vd gladly traversed. Having a well behaved normal OS that meets many user's expectations (but has your special stuff regularly installed!) is divine. I used to run Debian Live, and appreciated the tiny amount of shell hacking they have to layer persistent storage filesystem atop a ro filesystem- identical to how theres a ro container image then the mutable rw layer atop it... but a decade older! I find that the pretense of running "live" is largely gone. It's basically become a meaningless difference of what medium you run on but I've been using the same scripts to create the necessary root OS & UEFI EFI filesystem (FAT32 with a magic partition-type, populated with the bootloader & config). often I spin up systems by just copying a btrfs snapshot & rsync'ing efi directory (and updating some partition uuid's, regenerate machine-id), then I have two systems. Live feels meaningless, non-distinct from regular to me. All these attempts to treat things different & distinctly, to make special cases for ourself- oh we need a network/router oriented OS, we need a bare OS, we need a consumer OS, we need a NAS os- so rarely have I ever felt like these attempts to flee from the fold & venture out to special really have rewards. This behavior of making exceptions for your problem, talking yourself out of doing the easy normal base thing, seems so rarely to me to have rewards. Run Debian, run systemd, run normal well-known tools! Unless you're really certain getting off the base path really is essential, has huge specific merit. That's why I like this effort. It allows customization & baking your own thing, but it's much more routine & regular & normal than so many "make your own OS" projects, where folks tend to be quite "back to the land" in motive. Let's make our own OS from sticks! Yeah! But no. You almost certainly should have an ok userland base in my view. Debian is a pretty great one.
KingLancelot 4y ago
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neatze 4y ago
Is there anything that makes it worth to switch from debian live-config scripts ?
- clayrisser 4y ago
  - overlays (basically you can separate configuration into separate units) - templating support - configuration in yaml files - it still fully supports live-build support, so it should be super easy to migrate. You just put the live build files in os/lb or in the lb folder of an overlay.
2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
Any color you want, as long as it's black.
- prettyStandard 4y ago
  Finally I can have my own distro complete with bugs.
not_the_fda 4y ago
How is this different / better than live-build?
- clayrisser 4y ago
  It’s easier to use. It actually uses live-build under the covers, and even supports enabling you to tap into the live build system directly. A couple of things it supports that live build does not support. - overlays (basically configuration modules) - templating - python hooks
angelofdeauth 4y ago
Alternatives that support more than just Debian: https://github.com/buildroot/buildroot https://github.com/buildroot/buildroot https://github.com/skiffos/SkiffOS https://github.com/skiffos/SkiffOS (Based on buildroot) https://www.yoctoproject.org/ https://www.yoctoproject.org/
- synergy20 4y ago
  these are for embedded boards though
  - Bombinator 4y ago
    Does that mean it can't be used for desktop PCs? I remember using it in the past but on a vm.
    - synergy20 4y ago
      I won't use it myself, but it's linux, it's technically possible to use it in and out a vm anywhere
  - aperturecjs 4y ago
    SkiffOS also supports desktop PCs (with the intel/desktop layer) + EFI with rEFInd / GRUB. Also supports the Steam Deck.
alex_smart 4y ago
Linux-factory: A framework used to create custom Linux Debian ~~operating systems~~ installers FTFY
csdvrx 4y ago
Debian and Ubuntu are nice, but not exactly bleeding edge. IMHO arch is far better, and comes with an extra bonus: you can use pacman just like on MSYS2 (Windows)
- culopatin 4y ago
  I use arch btw. It’s better because we the arch users say so. I’m an arch user btw.
  - csdvrx 4y ago
    That's not arguing in good faith. Here's a simple example: you want hyprland, patheon and interception-caps2esc on ubuntu? Good luck! On arch, it's just a pacman away. You don't like how arch is perceived as elitist? Use manjaro. Ubuntu had its place in the last century, but with most development happening on git you need a rolling release.
    - culopatin 4y ago
      It’s not funny if you have to explain it but it was mostly a joke, without rolling eyes. Also making fun a bit about how easy it is to make a claim that something is better than another thing and leave it at that, which is very common in every population but in particular something you hear from the arch one. I use Arch btw.
      - csdvrx 4y ago
        > It’s not funny if you have to explain it but it was mostly a joke, without rolling eyes. Poe law strikes again! My apologies then, because I known how Arch can have this reputation. But Arch is just so good! Ubuntu and RedHat seem to be stuck in the past: it's not just about rolling releases, but many small details that pile up. FYI I also find Alpine very interesting.
        alex_smart 4y ago
meatjuice 4y ago
default.nix in this repo doesn’t seems to work since it doesn’t include poetry and many other requirements.
- clayrisser 4y ago
  Yes, sorry about that. I need to work a bit more on the nix compatibility. Please file an issue on this.
pabs3 4y ago
There are a ton of Debian system build tools out there and people keep making new ones: https://wiki.debian.org/SystemBuildTools https://wiki.debian.org/SystemBuildTools
- clayrisser 4y ago
  I hope this is the easiest to use.
- ranting-moth 4y ago
  There's nothing wrong with making new tools. I love making my own tools, both physical tools and software tools. The feeling you get from it is great! Plus, this is often how new things (or ways to do things) are discovered.
  - pabs3 4y ago
    I think I'd rather have one featureful well-maintained tool backed by a community of people than a hundred of them with different features and single maintainers for each one.
clayrisser 4y ago
This project is a product of 4 years of work, mostly learning the Debian ecosystem. I started with Ubuntu, I’ve tried Arch, I’ve tried Gentoo, but nothing beats the ease of Debian when it comes to custom distributions. Debian was almost built to fork. Their ecosystem is amazing. Their live build tool is super. I built Linux Factory so everyone else can build custom Debian distributions easily without having to know the live-build tool. It’s really easy to configure and get started. Please give me feedback on how I can make it better.
- jayp1418 4y ago
  Thanks for tool. Will there be GUIed version in future ? Like Suse had previously ?
  - rascul 4y ago
    > Like Suse had previously ? Do you mean SUSE Studio? That functionality has been integrated into the openSUSE Build Service at https://build.opensuse.org/ https://build.opensuse.org/ .
- ilovecaching 4y ago
  Why not just use mkosi? There are so many tools that do this already and mkosi is cross distro and can do super modern stuff like use UKIs.
  - merb 4y ago
    always when somebody says "why not use use X?" i always need to thing at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 sometimes the answer is just, why not? - it's not forbidden to learn something or try a different approach.
    - ilovecaching 4y ago
      1. Having N tools that are 95% the same is just frustrating for everyone trying to find a tool that will be maintained. 2. Contributing to a project that almost does what you want leads to better tools that are also maintained so they can be relied upon to build new things. 3. Instead of building the Nth version of something, you could be working on something novel. Theres no value from building something new if you can just learn how something that exists works and contribute to it instead. NIH syndrome is actively harmful to open source.
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dharmendra_123 4y ago
Linux Factory sounds like a fantastic tool that could benefit a lot of people who want to build their own custom Debian-based distributions. It's awesome that you've made it accessible even for those who aren't familiar with the live-build tool. In terms of feedback, it might be helpful to include some tutorials or guides for those who are completely new to the process of building custom distributions. Additionally, having a user community where people can share their experiences and ask questions could be really valuable.
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jyf007 4y ago
i have already converted to ZFS/btrfs snapshot to publish my project
ladyanita22 4y ago
Why are these things always for Debian based distros, but never for Fedora ones?
- Conan_Kudo 4y ago
  What would you like to see for something like that?
- SuperSandro2000 4y ago
  Why not use a distro that has the literally built in?
  - ladyanita22 4y ago
    What do you mean?
- tmoney75 4y ago
  Oh, hey!!! Did you know that RHEL, CentOS Stream, & Fedora has been providing an image builder for a couple of years? All of these links below demonstrate functionality that you can do with CentOS Stream & Fedora, and even with the no-cost developer subscription for RHEL which unlocks 16 RHEL subs with tons of extra functionality. Many links below to help you easily learn to use it. We are actually using this tooling internally to beging building all of the image artifacts for all three of these linux distros. Eating our own dogfood; this is the future. Also, below are links and some screenshots of the wicked cool new customizations that just landed in CentOS Stream and should come to RHEL 9.2 and Fedora soon. - Install in your local Fedora/CentOS Stream box dnf install -y osbuild-composer composer-cli cockpit-composer bash-completion systemctl enable --now osbuild-composer.socket systemctl enable --now cockpit.socketfirewall-cmd --add-service=cockpit && firewall-cmd --add-service=cockpit --permanent source /etc/bash_completion.d/composer-cli - RHEL Image Builder | Into the Terminal 53 youtube podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-mv_WLmQdA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-mv_WLmQdA - Blog: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/using-no-cost-developer-subscription-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-image-builder-hosted-service https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/using-no-cost-developer-subsc... - Blog: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/announcing-full-support-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-image-builder-service https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/announcing-full-support-new-r... - Upstream docs https://www.osbuild.org/guides/blueprint-reference/blueprint-reference.html https://www.osbuild.org/guides/blueprint-reference/blueprint... - RHEL 9 docs https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/composing_a_customized_rhel_system_image/composer-description_composing-a-customized-rhel-system-image https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterp... Screenshots - https://github.com/tabowling/Fedora-Virt-Lab/blob/master/cs9-imagebuilder1.png https://github.com/tabowling/Fedora-Virt-Lab/blob/master/cs9... - https://github.com/tabowling/Fedora-Virt-Lab/blob/master/cs9-imagebuilder2.png https://github.com/tabowling/Fedora-Virt-Lab/blob/master/cs9... Please give us feedback, feature requests, tell us how you're using it, pull requests at our upstream project https://github.com/osbuild https://github.com/osbuild Happy building!
Harikittu46 4y ago
Linux-factory is a powerful and innovative open-source project that is making it easier than ever before for developers and Linux enthusiasts to create custom Debian-based operating systems. Whether you're a seasoned developer or a newcomer to the Linux world, Linux-factory is definitely worth checking out!Great work @clayrisser sir...!! Hope you will reach many more milestones in future sir..!!
- groestl 4y ago
  No offense, but this from a new account makes it look suspicious.
  - Harikittu46 4y ago
    Hey groestel..! Iam not promoting any product or service, but rather expressing appreciation for an open-source project.I genuinely believes in the value of the project and wants to show my support. And if you want to support you can..!! No offense, Thank you...!!
SuperSandro2000 4y ago
or use NixOS which has this built in as a first class citizen.
phani25 4y ago
I recently had the opportunity to use Linux-Factory, and I must say that I'm thoroughly impressed with this operating system. It's clear that the Author behind Linux-Factory have put a lot of thought and effort into creating a streamlined and user-friendly experience that makes it easy to get things done. One of the standout features of Linux-Factory is its speed and performance. This operating system is lightning-fast, and it runs smoothly even on older hardware. Additionally, the user interface is clean and intuitive, making it easy to navigate and customize to suit your preferences. Another great thing about Linux-Factory is its versatility. Whether you're a developer, a gamer, or just someone who wants a reliable operating system for everyday use, Linux-Factory has something to offer. The software package selection is robust and well-curated, with all the tools and applications you need to get work done or enjoy your leisure time. Overall, I highly recommend Linux-Factory to anyone who is looking for a fast, reliable, and versatile operating system. The Author have done an excellent job creating an operating system that surpasses expectations, and I look forward to seeing what they have in store for future updates. Thank you for creating such an amazing product......!

189 points by nixcraft 4y ago

Hey just noticed all the activity here. I’m the author of Linux factory. I just opened up issues on GitHub so more discussion can happen there.

tannhaeuser 4y ago
Congrats and thanks. Not sure people interested in Debian want to contribute to the borg producing copilot and chatgpt based on their work on gh, among other things.

adampzakaria 4y ago

This sounds like something I'd be very interested in, though I'm not sure what it is. It'd be great if I could easily customize Debian (i3, vim, zsh, chrome, etc.) and distribute / share it with others. But I'm not sure what this does and cannot tell even after reading the first few sections of the README.

effie 4y ago
See also https://www.refracta.org/docs/readme.refractasnapshot.txt https://www.refracta.org/docs/readme.refractasnapshot.txt
- adampzakaria 4y ago
  Ah, very cool. Thank you :)
- clayrisser 4y ago
  The reason I didn’t use refracta is because I wanted a reproducible approach.
clayrisser 4y ago
As the author of Linux Factory, that’s exactly what I built it for. I would love to help guide you and get you started on your project. Please create an issue in the GitHub project and I’ll further guide you there.

gdgghhhhh 4y ago

I wonder how it compares to ELBE. https://elbe-rfs.org/ https://elbe-rfs.org/

alangibson 4y ago

Seems vaguely similar to Armbian?

lproven 4y ago
Er... in what way?
palata 4y ago
To be fair, there are tens of projects out there dedicated to creating custom rootfs...

TeeMassive 4y ago

It's like Yocto but made saner (although with less options)

tleb_ 4y ago
I'd be interested in knowing what you consider not sane in Yocto?
- palata 4y ago
  Anything with a learning curve steeper than "throw your files in a Dockerfile and call it a day" unfortunately tends to be considered "not sane". There is a whole market when it comes to making new tools for people who "don't have the time to RTFM". And then for tools helping to use those tools. (To be clear: I really like Yocto)
  - theossuary 4y ago
    Any recommendations on getting started with Yocto? I want to build a custom image for a Jetson, and Yocto seems like the only good option.
    - kkielhofner 4y ago
      Word of warning - I don't know how much you've looked into it yet but depending on your needs from Jetson the Nvidia stack gets really complicated really quickly. I know people have frustrations with Nivida supplied Jetpack but when you end up trying to figure out how to roll your own support for TensorRT, DLA, cuDNN, etc (on ARM64, of course) many people bail and run screaming back to Jetpack.
    - palata 4y ago
      IMO, start small, maybe with a RPi. Possibly Nvidia provides layers for the Jetson (I haven't seen that), but in my experience the risk is that those layers are super complicated (and fairly messy). I think it's better to learn how Yocto works first, rather than learning how to hack the layers provided by the manufacturer. Also it helped me to learn a bit how other distros are built: I tried Linux from scratch, then got interested in Alpine, and then in how PostmarketOS got started based on Alpine tooling. After all, a distro is "just" a bunch of packages, which are archives containing files that get decompressed in the right place. Yocto provides tools to create those packages (just like mainstream Linux distro). What Yocto adds on top is tools to manage cross-compiling (toolchains, a way to create an SDK, etc) and a system of layering that helps organizing them ("those packages go specifically with the RPi, so I will put them in a layer called "RPi" and I will call that a "BSP"", etc). Don't get me wrong, there is quite a lot. But there is no magic, the goal is always to create packages that will put the right files in the right place :-). Good luck!

temp2302271148 4y ago

I prefer the approach of AntiX and MX Linux. Start from a clean live distro, mod it to your taste, master it to a new Live ISO. You can also start from a normal MX/antiX system and make a live ISO backup. You can also install those ISOs. Systemd is optional on MX and disabled by default. LOTS of live and remaster options on those systems. I find myself more on live than on installed systems now. It's basically like working with FS snapshots. A similar distro with remaster tools based on Devuan is Refracta. There used to be the Debian Live project but it looks obsolete. EDIT: sorry I misread the bug reports, it is OK https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/index.en.html https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-man...

rektide 4y ago
There's almost no circumstance I can imagine where giving up a solid usable well known OS sounds tempting to me. Getting Debian running on PogoPlugs and OpenWRT devices has been a repeated ordeal I'vd gladly traversed. Having a well behaved normal OS that meets many user's expectations (but has your special stuff regularly installed!) is divine. I used to run Debian Live, and appreciated the tiny amount of shell hacking they have to layer persistent storage filesystem atop a ro filesystem- identical to how theres a ro container image then the mutable rw layer atop it... but a decade older! I find that the pretense of running "live" is largely gone. It's basically become a meaningless difference of what medium you run on but I've been using the same scripts to create the necessary root OS & UEFI EFI filesystem (FAT32 with a magic partition-type, populated with the bootloader & config). often I spin up systems by just copying a btrfs snapshot & rsync'ing efi directory (and updating some partition uuid's, regenerate machine-id), then I have two systems. Live feels meaningless, non-distinct from regular to me. All these attempts to treat things different & distinctly, to make special cases for ourself- oh we need a network/router oriented OS, we need a bare OS, we need a consumer OS, we need a NAS os- so rarely have I ever felt like these attempts to flee from the fold & venture out to special really have rewards. This behavior of making exceptions for your problem, talking yourself out of doing the easy normal base thing, seems so rarely to me to have rewards. Run Debian, run systemd, run normal well-known tools! Unless you're really certain getting off the base path really is essential, has huge specific merit. That's why I like this effort. It allows customization & baking your own thing, but it's much more routine & regular & normal than so many "make your own OS" projects, where folks tend to be quite "back to the land" in motive. Let's make our own OS from sticks! Yeah! But no. You almost certainly should have an ok userland base in my view. Debian is a pretty great one.

KingLancelot 4y ago

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neatze 4y ago

Is there anything that makes it worth to switch from debian live-config scripts ?

clayrisser 4y ago
- overlays (basically you can separate configuration into separate units) - templating support - configuration in yaml files - it still fully supports live-build support, so it should be super easy to migrate. You just put the live build files in os/lb or in the lb folder of an overlay.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago

Any color you want, as long as it's black.

prettyStandard 4y ago
Finally I can have my own distro complete with bugs.

not_the_fda 4y ago

How is this different / better than live-build?

clayrisser 4y ago
It’s easier to use. It actually uses live-build under the covers, and even supports enabling you to tap into the live build system directly. A couple of things it supports that live build does not support. - overlays (basically configuration modules) - templating - python hooks

angelofdeauth 4y ago

Alternatives that support more than just Debian: https://github.com/buildroot/buildroot https://github.com/buildroot/buildroot https://github.com/skiffos/SkiffOS https://github.com/skiffos/SkiffOS (Based on buildroot) https://www.yoctoproject.org/ https://www.yoctoproject.org/

synergy20 4y ago
these are for embedded boards though
- Bombinator 4y ago
  Does that mean it can't be used for desktop PCs? I remember using it in the past but on a vm.
  - synergy20 4y ago
    I won't use it myself, but it's linux, it's technically possible to use it in and out a vm anywhere
- aperturecjs 4y ago
  SkiffOS also supports desktop PCs (with the intel/desktop layer) + EFI with rEFInd / GRUB. Also supports the Steam Deck.

alex_smart 4y ago

Linux-factory: A framework used to create custom Linux Debian ~~operating systems~~ installers FTFY

csdvrx 4y ago

Debian and Ubuntu are nice, but not exactly bleeding edge. IMHO arch is far better, and comes with an extra bonus: you can use pacman just like on MSYS2 (Windows)

culopatin 4y ago
I use arch btw. It’s better because we the arch users say so. I’m an arch user btw.
- csdvrx 4y ago
  That's not arguing in good faith. Here's a simple example: you want hyprland, patheon and interception-caps2esc on ubuntu? Good luck! On arch, it's just a pacman away. You don't like how arch is perceived as elitist? Use manjaro. Ubuntu had its place in the last century, but with most development happening on git you need a rolling release.
  - culopatin 4y ago
    It’s not funny if you have to explain it but it was mostly a joke, without rolling eyes. Also making fun a bit about how easy it is to make a claim that something is better than another thing and leave it at that, which is very common in every population but in particular something you hear from the arch one. I use Arch btw.
    - csdvrx 4y ago
      > It’s not funny if you have to explain it but it was mostly a joke, without rolling eyes. Poe law strikes again! My apologies then, because I known how Arch can have this reputation. But Arch is just so good! Ubuntu and RedHat seem to be stuck in the past: it's not just about rolling releases, but many small details that pile up. FYI I also find Alpine very interesting.
      - alex_smart 4y ago

meatjuice 4y ago

default.nix in this repo doesn’t seems to work since it doesn’t include poetry and many other requirements.

clayrisser 4y ago
Yes, sorry about that. I need to work a bit more on the nix compatibility. Please file an issue on this.

pabs3 4y ago

There are a ton of Debian system build tools out there and people keep making new ones: https://wiki.debian.org/SystemBuildTools https://wiki.debian.org/SystemBuildTools

clayrisser 4y ago
I hope this is the easiest to use.
ranting-moth 4y ago
There's nothing wrong with making new tools. I love making my own tools, both physical tools and software tools. The feeling you get from it is great! Plus, this is often how new things (or ways to do things) are discovered.
- pabs3 4y ago
  I think I'd rather have one featureful well-maintained tool backed by a community of people than a hundred of them with different features and single maintainers for each one.

clayrisser 4y ago

This project is a product of 4 years of work, mostly learning the Debian ecosystem. I started with Ubuntu, I’ve tried Arch, I’ve tried Gentoo, but nothing beats the ease of Debian when it comes to custom distributions. Debian was almost built to fork. Their ecosystem is amazing. Their live build tool is super. I built Linux Factory so everyone else can build custom Debian distributions easily without having to know the live-build tool. It’s really easy to configure and get started. Please give me feedback on how I can make it better.

jayp1418 4y ago
Thanks for tool. Will there be GUIed version in future ? Like Suse had previously ?
- rascul 4y ago
  > Like Suse had previously ? Do you mean SUSE Studio? That functionality has been integrated into the openSUSE Build Service at https://build.opensuse.org/ https://build.opensuse.org/ .
ilovecaching 4y ago
Why not just use mkosi? There are so many tools that do this already and mkosi is cross distro and can do super modern stuff like use UKIs.
- merb 4y ago
  always when somebody says "why not use use X?" i always need to thing at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 sometimes the answer is just, why not? - it's not forbidden to learn something or try a different approach.
  - ilovecaching 4y ago
    1. Having N tools that are 95% the same is just frustrating for everyone trying to find a tool that will be maintained. 2. Contributing to a project that almost does what you want leads to better tools that are also maintained so they can be relied upon to build new things. 3. Instead of building the Nth version of something, you could be working on something novel. Theres no value from building something new if you can just learn how something that exists works and contribute to it instead. NIH syndrome is actively harmful to open source.

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dharmendra_123 4y ago

Linux Factory sounds like a fantastic tool that could benefit a lot of people who want to build their own custom Debian-based distributions. It's awesome that you've made it accessible even for those who aren't familiar with the live-build tool. In terms of feedback, it might be helpful to include some tutorials or guides for those who are completely new to the process of building custom distributions. Additionally, having a user community where people can share their experiences and ask questions could be really valuable.

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jyf007 4y ago

i have already converted to ZFS/btrfs snapshot to publish my project

ladyanita22 4y ago

Why are these things always for Debian based distros, but never for Fedora ones?

Conan_Kudo 4y ago
What would you like to see for something like that?
SuperSandro2000 4y ago
Why not use a distro that has the literally built in?
- ladyanita22 4y ago
  What do you mean?
tmoney75 4y ago
Oh, hey!!! Did you know that RHEL, CentOS Stream, & Fedora has been providing an image builder for a couple of years? All of these links below demonstrate functionality that you can do with CentOS Stream & Fedora, and even with the no-cost developer subscription for RHEL which unlocks 16 RHEL subs with tons of extra functionality. Many links below to help you easily learn to use it. We are actually using this tooling internally to beging building all of the image artifacts for all three of these linux distros. Eating our own dogfood; this is the future. Also, below are links and some screenshots of the wicked cool new customizations that just landed in CentOS Stream and should come to RHEL 9.2 and Fedora soon. - Install in your local Fedora/CentOS Stream box dnf install -y osbuild-composer composer-cli cockpit-composer bash-completion systemctl enable --now osbuild-composer.socket systemctl enable --now cockpit.socketfirewall-cmd --add-service=cockpit && firewall-cmd --add-service=cockpit --permanent source /etc/bash_completion.d/composer-cli - RHEL Image Builder | Into the Terminal 53 youtube podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-mv_WLmQdA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-mv_WLmQdA - Blog: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/using-no-cost-developer-subscription-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-image-builder-hosted-service https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/using-no-cost-developer-subsc... - Blog: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/announcing-full-support-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-image-builder-service https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/announcing-full-support-new-r... - Upstream docs https://www.osbuild.org/guides/blueprint-reference/blueprint-reference.html https://www.osbuild.org/guides/blueprint-reference/blueprint... - RHEL 9 docs https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/composing_a_customized_rhel_system_image/composer-description_composing-a-customized-rhel-system-image https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterp... Screenshots - https://github.com/tabowling/Fedora-Virt-Lab/blob/master/cs9-imagebuilder1.png https://github.com/tabowling/Fedora-Virt-Lab/blob/master/cs9... - https://github.com/tabowling/Fedora-Virt-Lab/blob/master/cs9-imagebuilder2.png https://github.com/tabowling/Fedora-Virt-Lab/blob/master/cs9... Please give us feedback, feature requests, tell us how you're using it, pull requests at our upstream project https://github.com/osbuild https://github.com/osbuild Happy building!

Harikittu46 4y ago

Linux-factory is a powerful and innovative open-source project that is making it easier than ever before for developers and Linux enthusiasts to create custom Debian-based operating systems. Whether you're a seasoned developer or a newcomer to the Linux world, Linux-factory is definitely worth checking out!Great work @clayrisser sir...!! Hope you will reach many more milestones in future sir..!!

groestl 4y ago
No offense, but this from a new account makes it look suspicious.
- Harikittu46 4y ago
  Hey groestel..! Iam not promoting any product or service, but rather expressing appreciation for an open-source project.I genuinely believes in the value of the project and wants to show my support. And if you want to support you can..!! No offense, Thank you...!!

SuperSandro2000 4y ago

or use NixOS which has this built in as a first class citizen.

phani25 4y ago

I recently had the opportunity to use Linux-Factory, and I must say that I'm thoroughly impressed with this operating system. It's clear that the Author behind Linux-Factory have put a lot of thought and effort into creating a streamlined and user-friendly experience that makes it easy to get things done. One of the standout features of Linux-Factory is its speed and performance. This operating system is lightning-fast, and it runs smoothly even on older hardware. Additionally, the user interface is clean and intuitive, making it easy to navigate and customize to suit your preferences. Another great thing about Linux-Factory is its versatility. Whether you're a developer, a gamer, or just someone who wants a reliable operating system for everyday use, Linux-Factory has something to offer. The software package selection is robust and well-curated, with all the tools and applications you need to get work done or enjoy your leisure time. Overall, I highly recommend Linux-Factory to anyone who is looking for a fast, reliable, and versatile operating system. The Author have done an excellent job creating an operating system that surpasses expectations, and I look forward to seeing what they have in store for future updates. Thank you for creating such an amazing product......!