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all other roads are shared infrastructure that can be legally used by those who are walking or are using vehicles other than cars. Try walking on the road in a

all other roads are shared infrastructure that can be legally used by those who are walking or are using vehicles other than cars. Try walking on the road in any business district and see how long it is until you get a ticket for jaywalking or illegally walking in the road. And while a rural highway with little to no shoulder may be legally open to pedestrians and bikes, it's practically inaccessible since sharing a road with 50 mph traffic (which means real-life 60+ mph speeds) is risky.

u801e 4y ago
> Try walking on the road in any business district and see how long it is until you get a ticket for jaywalking or illegally walking in the road. What law are you referring to that makes it illegal for pedestrians to walk on the road facing traffic on a road in a business district. > since sharing a road with 50 mph traffic (which means real-life 60+ mph speeds) is risky. I've done it plenty of times and motorists simply change lanes to pass me. Most motorists are only comfortable going 60 mph of they're able to see at least 700 feet or more in front of them. That gives then at least 7 seconds to see a cyclist and the cyclist that much time to see them in their mirrors. That's enough time to tell whether the motorist is slowing down or changing lanes to pass. If they aren't, then you can ride off road to avoid a collision. In my years of experience riding on roads with 50 mph+ speeds, every motorist either changed lanes or slowed down well before they caught up with me based on what I could see in my mirrors.
- Johnny555 4y ago
  What law are you referring to that makes it illegal for pedestrians to walk on the road facing traffic on a road in a business district RCW 46.61.250 - Where sidewalks are provided and are accessible, it is unlawful for any pedestrian to walk or otherwise move along and upon an adjacent roadway As for rural cycling, since there are few cyclists in the USA, there's not a lot of crash data, but rural crashes are around 3X likely to result in a fatality than urban crashes. Data from the UK is easier to find: Rural roads were also deadlier than those in urban areas, with a total of 140 cyclists dying in 2020 - meaning that fatalities on rural roads accounted for 64 per cent of the overall number. https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/cyclist-deaths-on-rural-roads-increase-data-reveals https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/cyclist-deaths-on-rural-r...
  - u801e 4y ago
    > Where sidewalks are provided and are accessible, it is unlawful for any pedestrian to walk or otherwise move along and upon an adjacent roadway A charitable interpretation of my original assertion would be: "all other roads are shared infrastructure that can be legally used by those who are walking" would not include roads where sidewalks are provided and are accessible. > As for rural cycling, since there are few cyclists in the USA, there's not a lot of crash data In urban areas, most fatal cyclist related crashes involve wrong way cyclists, cyclists who are not using lights at night, and cyclists who are cycling under the influence of alcohol or other drugs. As for rural crashes, while there are higher speeds involved, riding in a conspicuous manner that ensures that motorists have to slow down and change lanes to pass as opposed to squeezing between you and oncoming traffic can go a long way towards mitigating the risk of being involved in a crash.

u801e 4y ago

> Try walking on the road in any business district and see how long it is until you get a ticket for jaywalking or illegally walking in the road. What law are you referring to that makes it illegal for pedestrians to walk on the road facing traffic on a road in a business district. > since sharing a road with 50 mph traffic (which means real-life 60+ mph speeds) is risky. I've done it plenty of times and motorists simply change lanes to pass me. Most motorists are only comfortable going 60 mph of they're able to see at least 700 feet or more in front of them. That gives then at least 7 seconds to see a cyclist and the cyclist that much time to see them in their mirrors. That's enough time to tell whether the motorist is slowing down or changing lanes to pass. If they aren't, then you can ride off road to avoid a collision. In my years of experience riding on roads with 50 mph+ speeds, every motorist either changed lanes or slowed down well before they caught up with me based on what I could see in my mirrors.

Johnny555 4y ago
What law are you referring to that makes it illegal for pedestrians to walk on the road facing traffic on a road in a business district RCW 46.61.250 - Where sidewalks are provided and are accessible, it is unlawful for any pedestrian to walk or otherwise move along and upon an adjacent roadway As for rural cycling, since there are few cyclists in the USA, there's not a lot of crash data, but rural crashes are around 3X likely to result in a fatality than urban crashes. Data from the UK is easier to find: Rural roads were also deadlier than those in urban areas, with a total of 140 cyclists dying in 2020 - meaning that fatalities on rural roads accounted for 64 per cent of the overall number. https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/cyclist-deaths-on-rural-roads-increase-data-reveals https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/cyclist-deaths-on-rural-r...
- u801e 4y ago
  > Where sidewalks are provided and are accessible, it is unlawful for any pedestrian to walk or otherwise move along and upon an adjacent roadway A charitable interpretation of my original assertion would be: "all other roads are shared infrastructure that can be legally used by those who are walking" would not include roads where sidewalks are provided and are accessible. > As for rural cycling, since there are few cyclists in the USA, there's not a lot of crash data In urban areas, most fatal cyclist related crashes involve wrong way cyclists, cyclists who are not using lights at night, and cyclists who are cycling under the influence of alcohol or other drugs. As for rural crashes, while there are higher speeds involved, riding in a conspicuous manner that ensures that motorists have to slow down and change lanes to pass as opposed to squeezing between you and oncoming traffic can go a long way towards mitigating the risk of being involved in a crash.