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Is there a good alternative? Would be nice if it is in Python. Maybe Pelican, Nikola, Hyde?

by mhb 4y ago

antihero 4y ago
Astro is pretty awesome if you’re ok with TS/JS.
thunky 4y ago
Cobalt is nice if you want simple: https://cobalt-org.github.io/ https://cobalt-org.github.io/ It's not python, but it is a single binary to be off and running.
- linsomniac 4y ago
  Thanks for the pointer, I hadn't heard of that one. I'd put it in the same department as "gostatic" as being too minimal, unless you want to build the templates yourself. gostatic allowed me to have tags where from a quick look cobalt does not. edit: Forgot to mention: The install option seems to be broken, you have to go into "Reference" to the install guide to find an alternative.
huimang 4y ago
Hugo is really nice once you spend some time learning the templating system and how the variables get set up. It does have a learning curve at first, but I don't find any of the alternatives to be as compelling as hugo once you're up and running.
richardw 4y ago
Hugo is great but the learning curve is madness. I've used it twice with a couple years in-between, and succeeded, but it's very annoying to have 1-3 hours of failure before you see anything useful. Add theme, follow tutorial, somehow blows up, need to figure out exactly where to put what, round and round then find a tiny wedge that works and just expand that until I have something that does what I need. But once it's set up it's really fast and you can iterate on your pages very nicely. No "tons of imports" that I needed with Jekyll.
simplyinfinity 4y ago
WordPress. I hate its guts, but my god does it just work. Or I'm just going to give up and use squarespace or webflow, or something like that. I've got a full time job, managing this is not worth the mental energy it takes to learn all it's quirks.
deepspace 4y ago
Lektor is Python based and Just Works, but it is far off the beaten track… https://www.getlektor.com/ https://www.getlektor.com/
- ftio 4y ago
  I use and love Lektor! Built-in CMS, simple templating system, and a lot of flexibility if you want it (but with a great Quickstart option). Even as a dummy Product Manager, I've been able to write two plugins[0] for it over the last couple weeks (I'm one of the many laid off folks with a wee bit of extra time), and it's been a joy. Definitely frustrating moments — the docs could be better — but the maintainers have been super kind and helpful. It'd definitely benefit from a larger, more active community. Join us! [0] Shameless plug: just last night, I wrote about one of those plugins here: https://ft.io/blog/link-preview-images/ https://ft.io/blog/link-preview-images/
  - pbronez 4y ago
    Nice work! Good write up.
- stavros 4y ago
  I use Lektor for when I want extensibility, Zola when I want speed and won't ever need to create plugins.
mmusc 4y ago
I found elevently the best of the bunch, as it deals with html and js so no need to spin up extra sdks or builds to get things going. The docs aren't great either but didn't find them as cryptic as Hugo docs.
dragontamer 4y ago
Hugo is very opinionated. But that opinion it has isn't very well communicated, and I myself don't think I fully understand it enough to write docs on it. Hugo has opinions on where files should be, how it should be transformed into pages. How those pages should be organized (ie: Taxonomies), and how users and template writers should be able to customize these elements to generate very different web pages. ------------ I do wonder if "Document Hugo" is the wrong approach, but instead the proper thing that needs to happen is "Create Beginner-Hugo-Template" and document that instead. Then, "Create Intemediate-Hugo-Template" and document how various things you add to these Templates can improve a blog, or book, or various different webpage "ideas".
linsomniac 4y ago
This past weekend I spent most of a day playing with various simple SSGs with the target of migrating my Hugo blog to something simpler. This was after I spent a couple hours in Hugo trying to generate a page with just simple links to all the blog posts. My favorite was Hexo: Reasonably simple, default setup looked good. I wrote a larger (but still mini) review of Hexo, gostatic, and Zola: https://linsomniac.gitlab.io/post/2023-02-26-simple_static_site_generators_for_a_blog/ https://linsomniac.gitlab.io/post/2023-02-26-simple_static_s... Years ago I rewrote our entire company website, including hundreds of blog posts an articles, as well as marketing stuff, in Pelican in a day or two. When I set up my Hugo site originally, I think I spent some time munging around and eventually got it to work, but that was years ago and everything I learned is lost. So I need something dead simple. But not, unfortunately, so minimal as gostatic.
recfab 4y ago
I like Sphinx [0] with the MyST Markdown syntax [1]. There is a related project, Myst NB [2], which enables including Jupyter notebooks in your site. There is also a plugin for blogging [3]. [0]: https://www.sphinx-doc.org https://www.sphinx-doc.org [1]: https://myst-parser.readthedocs.io https://myst-parser.readthedocs.io [2]: https://myst-nb.readthedocs.io https://myst-nb.readthedocs.io [3]: https://ablog.readthedocs.io https://ablog.readthedocs.io

Is there a good alternative? Would be nice if it is in Python. Maybe Pelican, Nikola, Hyde?

by mhb 4y ago

Is there a good alternative? Would be nice if it is in Python. Maybe Pelican, Nikola, Hyde?

antihero 4y ago

Astro is pretty awesome if you’re ok with TS/JS.

thunky 4y ago

Cobalt is nice if you want simple: https://cobalt-org.github.io/ https://cobalt-org.github.io/ It's not python, but it is a single binary to be off and running.

linsomniac 4y ago
Thanks for the pointer, I hadn't heard of that one. I'd put it in the same department as "gostatic" as being too minimal, unless you want to build the templates yourself. gostatic allowed me to have tags where from a quick look cobalt does not. edit: Forgot to mention: The install option seems to be broken, you have to go into "Reference" to the install guide to find an alternative.

huimang 4y ago

Hugo is really nice once you spend some time learning the templating system and how the variables get set up. It does have a learning curve at first, but I don't find any of the alternatives to be as compelling as hugo once you're up and running.

richardw 4y ago

Hugo is great but the learning curve is madness. I've used it twice with a couple years in-between, and succeeded, but it's very annoying to have 1-3 hours of failure before you see anything useful. Add theme, follow tutorial, somehow blows up, need to figure out exactly where to put what, round and round then find a tiny wedge that works and just expand that until I have something that does what I need. But once it's set up it's really fast and you can iterate on your pages very nicely. No "tons of imports" that I needed with Jekyll.

simplyinfinity 4y ago

WordPress. I hate its guts, but my god does it just work. Or I'm just going to give up and use squarespace or webflow, or something like that. I've got a full time job, managing this is not worth the mental energy it takes to learn all it's quirks.

deepspace 4y ago

Lektor is Python based and Just Works, but it is far off the beaten track… https://www.getlektor.com/ https://www.getlektor.com/

ftio 4y ago
I use and love Lektor! Built-in CMS, simple templating system, and a lot of flexibility if you want it (but with a great Quickstart option). Even as a dummy Product Manager, I've been able to write two plugins[0] for it over the last couple weeks (I'm one of the many laid off folks with a wee bit of extra time), and it's been a joy. Definitely frustrating moments — the docs could be better — but the maintainers have been super kind and helpful. It'd definitely benefit from a larger, more active community. Join us! [0] Shameless plug: just last night, I wrote about one of those plugins here: https://ft.io/blog/link-preview-images/ https://ft.io/blog/link-preview-images/
- pbronez 4y ago
  Nice work! Good write up.
stavros 4y ago
I use Lektor for when I want extensibility, Zola when I want speed and won't ever need to create plugins.

mmusc 4y ago

I found elevently the best of the bunch, as it deals with html and js so no need to spin up extra sdks or builds to get things going. The docs aren't great either but didn't find them as cryptic as Hugo docs.

dragontamer 4y ago

Hugo is very opinionated. But that opinion it has isn't very well communicated, and I myself don't think I fully understand it enough to write docs on it. Hugo has opinions on where files should be, how it should be transformed into pages. How those pages should be organized (ie: Taxonomies), and how users and template writers should be able to customize these elements to generate very different web pages. ------------ I do wonder if "Document Hugo" is the wrong approach, but instead the proper thing that needs to happen is "Create Beginner-Hugo-Template" and document that instead. Then, "Create Intemediate-Hugo-Template" and document how various things you add to these Templates can improve a blog, or book, or various different webpage "ideas".

linsomniac 4y ago

This past weekend I spent most of a day playing with various simple SSGs with the target of migrating my Hugo blog to something simpler. This was after I spent a couple hours in Hugo trying to generate a page with just simple links to all the blog posts. My favorite was Hexo: Reasonably simple, default setup looked good. I wrote a larger (but still mini) review of Hexo, gostatic, and Zola: https://linsomniac.gitlab.io/post/2023-02-26-simple_static_site_generators_for_a_blog/ https://linsomniac.gitlab.io/post/2023-02-26-simple_static_s... Years ago I rewrote our entire company website, including hundreds of blog posts an articles, as well as marketing stuff, in Pelican in a day or two. When I set up my Hugo site originally, I think I spent some time munging around and eventually got it to work, but that was years ago and everything I learned is lost. So I need something dead simple. But not, unfortunately, so minimal as gostatic.

recfab 4y ago

I like Sphinx [0] with the MyST Markdown syntax [1]. There is a related project, Myst NB [2], which enables including Jupyter notebooks in your site. There is also a plugin for blogging [3]. [0]: https://www.sphinx-doc.org https://www.sphinx-doc.org [1]: https://myst-parser.readthedocs.io https://myst-parser.readthedocs.io [2]: https://myst-nb.readthedocs.io https://myst-nb.readthedocs.io [3]: https://ablog.readthedocs.io https://ablog.readthedocs.io