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Obligatory mention of T-Pain's Tiny Desk Concert, in which he demonstrates, without autotune, that he's a talented musician and vocalist who's using it stylisti

Obligatory mention of T-Pain's Tiny Desk Concert, in which he demonstrates, without autotune, that he's a talented musician and vocalist who's using it stylistically. https://www.npr.org/2014/10/29/359661053/t-pain-tiny-desk-concert https://www.npr.org/2014/10/29/359661053/t-pain-tiny-desk-co...

PaulHoule 4y ago
I've got no problem w/ T-Pain himself, my problem is that every other rapper sounds like T-Pain today. The fact that he's had such an impact on the industry proves that he's a creative innovator. My problem is with everybody else.
- agentwiggles 4y ago
  Fair!
  - agentwiggles 4y ago
    Retracted in light of BoorishBear's comment, which is definitely true. I'm not a big hip hop guy, but I think that the "everyone sounds like T-Pain" comment is something like 10-15 years out of date. I have to say that I'm really not a fan of what seems to be "topping the charts" in hip-hop today, but even so, there's undeniably people doing new and interesting things in the genre. A few releases since the heyday of T-Pain that I did enjoy: * To Pimp a Butterfly * DAMN * Coloring Book * Kids See Ghosts * We Got It From Here ... Thank You For Your Service I've also really enjoyed some of the hip-hop adjacent stuff that Thundercat has put out, especially Drunk. (Thundercat is amazingly talented, and was a big part of the production on TPAB).
- Oxidation 4y ago
  A bit like how Blade Runner's rain-soaked neon cybernoir now feels derivative!
- jnwatson 4y ago
  That and the mumblerap popularized by Drake means a lot of hip hop sounds the same.
- BoorishBears 4y ago
  > my problem is that every other rapper sounds like T-Pain today They really don't, but you've made up your mind so you'll only ever really hear it when it sounds like T-Pain, then go "you see! all sounds like T-pain!" Since the T-Pain era (known as the ringtone rap era) we've had everything from To Pimp a Butterfly to Flower Boy to Kids See Ghosts to LP! It's been a decade+ of innovation on a level that makes the old days look mundane.

PaulHoule 4y ago

I've got no problem w/ T-Pain himself, my problem is that every other rapper sounds like T-Pain today. The fact that he's had such an impact on the industry proves that he's a creative innovator. My problem is with everybody else.

agentwiggles 4y ago
Fair!
- agentwiggles 4y ago
  Retracted in light of BoorishBear's comment, which is definitely true. I'm not a big hip hop guy, but I think that the "everyone sounds like T-Pain" comment is something like 10-15 years out of date. I have to say that I'm really not a fan of what seems to be "topping the charts" in hip-hop today, but even so, there's undeniably people doing new and interesting things in the genre. A few releases since the heyday of T-Pain that I did enjoy: * To Pimp a Butterfly * DAMN * Coloring Book * Kids See Ghosts * We Got It From Here ... Thank You For Your Service I've also really enjoyed some of the hip-hop adjacent stuff that Thundercat has put out, especially Drunk. (Thundercat is amazingly talented, and was a big part of the production on TPAB).
Oxidation 4y ago
A bit like how Blade Runner's rain-soaked neon cybernoir now feels derivative!
jnwatson 4y ago
That and the mumblerap popularized by Drake means a lot of hip hop sounds the same.
BoorishBears 4y ago
> my problem is that every other rapper sounds like T-Pain today They really don't, but you've made up your mind so you'll only ever really hear it when it sounds like T-Pain, then go "you see! all sounds like T-pain!" Since the T-Pain era (known as the ringtone rap era) we've had everything from To Pimp a Butterfly to Flower Boy to Kids See Ghosts to LP! It's been a decade+ of innovation on a level that makes the old days look mundane.