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I'm not aware of any natural or constructed English/Scandinavian pidgins/creoles, but that sure would be fun. The conventional wisdom is that it's easier for an

I'm not aware of any natural or constructed English/Scandinavian pidgins/creoles, but that sure would be fun. The conventional wisdom is that it's easier for an English speaker to learn Swedish than it is to learn German. Regarding if that would arise in the Scandinavian countries in the future - it actually seems more likely in German speaking countries. There is actually a word for it now - Denglisch (Deutsch Englisch), similar to e.g. Hinglish (Hindi English). Basically using German grammar with large amounts of English vocabulary. I hear so many English words in German lately for which there exists a perfectly good German word already. Examples: Denlisch: "Bist du ready?" Deutsch: "Bist du bereit?" English: "Are you ready?" Denglisch: Joke Deutsch: Witz

timeon 4y ago
> The conventional wisdom is that it's easier for an English speaker to learn Swedish than it is to learn German. If we consider pronunciation then closest is probably Danish. As English pronunciation seems to be alien to most European languages.
- memsom 4y ago
  Not Danish. Danish is pretty alien. Norwegian is quite easy for an English speaker, plus all the dialects mean that even technicalities such as the tone accent can be "worked around". Swedish and Norwegian are both pretty easy to pronounce and pretty easy to learn as an English speaker. Most of the problem is vocabulary, not really so much the grammar.
throwaway305235 4y ago
Norwegian has several loanwords from English. Some are pronounced differently (such as "juice"), while others use the English pronunciation, but sometimes with a Norwegian ending. The latter is more common among the youth. An example: "Denne eplejuicen er helt fucka / føkka" -> This apple juice is fucked up. Gamers often talk about "lev'le opp" ("level up") for example, but it's not used that often in its written form. It just looks strange to me. Sometimes gamers even replace a Norwegian word such as "oppgradere" with its English equivalent ("upgrade"). In some cases it is pronounced as English with a Norwegian "e" sound at the end, like the "é" in French "café" We also have a few loanwords from German, such as: - "Vorse", from the German "vorspiel" (prelude). We use it to describe starting the evening drinking and partying at a friend's apartment before going to a nightclub / bar. - "Dass". from "das Haüschen" ("little house"). This is used as a slang for toilet. I don't see an end to this, as the Norwegian language is not as protected as Icelandic. The Norwegian language council sometimes tries to provide alternatives, but they are usually either too late or it just sounds silly.
adolph 4y ago
I wonder where the b in sein conjugation came from? are (v.) present plural indicative of be (q.v.), from Old English earun (Mercian), aron (Northumbrian), from Proto-Germanic *ar-, probably a variant of PIE *es- "to be" (see am). Also from Old Norse cognates. https://www.etymonline.com/word/are https://www.etymonline.com/word/are

timeon 4y ago

> The conventional wisdom is that it's easier for an English speaker to learn Swedish than it is to learn German. If we consider pronunciation then closest is probably Danish. As English pronunciation seems to be alien to most European languages.

memsom 4y ago
Not Danish. Danish is pretty alien. Norwegian is quite easy for an English speaker, plus all the dialects mean that even technicalities such as the tone accent can be "worked around". Swedish and Norwegian are both pretty easy to pronounce and pretty easy to learn as an English speaker. Most of the problem is vocabulary, not really so much the grammar.

throwaway305235 4y ago

Norwegian has several loanwords from English. Some are pronounced differently (such as "juice"), while others use the English pronunciation, but sometimes with a Norwegian ending. The latter is more common among the youth. An example: "Denne eplejuicen er helt fucka / føkka" -> This apple juice is fucked up. Gamers often talk about "lev'le opp" ("level up") for example, but it's not used that often in its written form. It just looks strange to me. Sometimes gamers even replace a Norwegian word such as "oppgradere" with its English equivalent ("upgrade"). In some cases it is pronounced as English with a Norwegian "e" sound at the end, like the "é" in French "café" We also have a few loanwords from German, such as: - "Vorse", from the German "vorspiel" (prelude). We use it to describe starting the evening drinking and partying at a friend's apartment before going to a nightclub / bar. - "Dass". from "das Haüschen" ("little house"). This is used as a slang for toilet. I don't see an end to this, as the Norwegian language is not as protected as Icelandic. The Norwegian language council sometimes tries to provide alternatives, but they are usually either too late or it just sounds silly.

adolph 4y ago

I wonder where the b in sein conjugation came from? are (v.) present plural indicative of be (q.v.), from Old English earun (Mercian), aron (Northumbrian), from Proto-Germanic *ar-, probably a variant of PIE *es- "to be" (see am). Also from Old Norse cognates. https://www.etymonline.com/word/are https://www.etymonline.com/word/are