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I see it as a fun way to see how english would work when it is delatinized / degallicized. Most other influences are a detail.
by axlee 4y ago
I see it as a fun way to see how english would work when it is delatinized / degallicized. Most other influences are a detail.
- aardvark179 4y agoAlthough it seems intended as fun I’m always a little nervous of things like this because it also denies the power relationships that led to those borrowings. Degallicized English is kind of erasing the relationship between England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, and even Cornwall. I’d be much more comfortable if I didn’t have to explain to so many Americans that Scotland is not a part of England, that it isn’t a separate island, etc.
- philwelch 4y agoWhile I understand and appreciate these distinctions, I think a lot of Brits can get a little precious about the idea that England, Scotland, etc. are different “countries”, to the degree that they even e.g. field competing teams in the World Cup. I understand that there’s a nuanced narrative in which the UK consists of four different countries that share a monarch and a government, but from the outside y’all are just one country. I’m a little more sympathetic to pedantry about not calling that country “England”, but people do the same thing with the Netherlands and Holland. (There are apparently twelve Netherlands, with Holland only consisting of two of them!)
- walthamstow 4y agoI don't know any English people who think that Scotland or Wales are countries. Most people understand that the four nations compete separately in football because the game was invented here, and the first ever international match was between England and Scotland. A great distinction I once heard was that the US is a nation made up of states, the UK is a state made up of nations.
- Wildgoose 4y agoPleased to meet you. I'm English. Scotland and Wales are countries. There can't be a concept of a "Union" if there are no components to unite. Scotland has its own Parliament, Legal System and even bank notes, for example.
- walthamstow 4y agoSo Georgia and Virginia are countries too? They entered into a union, they have their own legal systems, they have their own legislatures.
- philwelch 4y agoThey even have their own militaries.
- philwelch 4y agoThe Scottish Parliament has its authority devolved to it from Westminster. It lacks the inherent constitutional right to self-government held by any of the fifty United States.
- adammarples 4y agoEvery English person I know thinks that England, Scotland and Wales are countries. It's what we were taught in school. I find it odd that you find the opposite.
- walthamstow 4y agoI think the opposite because I live in a country called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. That is what it says on my passport.
- adammarples 4y agoThat's weird, my passport doesn't say "country" on it anywhere. Where does yours? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_of_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_of_the_United_Kingdo...
- bloppe 4y agoWhile it's tough to find uses of the word "degallicize", I'd imagine it comes from Gallic, meaning roughly French, not Gaelic.
- davidgay 4y agoOf course, the root of Gallic is undoubtedly the same as Gaelic :)