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To some degree you can choose your customers as the owner. My manager can tell me "stop coding and scrub toilets or you're fired" if they want, and fire me if

To some degree you can choose your customers as the owner. My manager can tell me "stop coding and scrub toilets or you're fired" if they want, and fire me if I refuse. Owners may not have complete freedom, but they at least have more.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
You only have that freedom if you don’t want your company to be paid. Saying you can choose customers is no different than saying you can choose to scrub (or not) those toilets. Yes, you always have choices. Consequences are not very different.
- scottLobster 4y ago
  I'd say the difference between "get paid less" and "go to zero immediately" is pretty large.
zamnos 4y ago
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s1artibartfast 4y ago
Owners can turn down customers and employees can turn down companies. The trade-offs are different but that doesn't mean you are a slave. Changing jobs is extremely easy, the only hard part is wearing the pros and cons of different jobs.
- scottLobster 4y ago
  Changing jobs is extremely easy? Maybe if you're single and can throw everything you own in a Uhaul, or you live in an area with plentiful jobs in your field of expertise. Moving a family of four from one 1700 sq ft house to another is not easy nor cheap, no matter how it's done. Turning down a customer, assuming your business can afford it, is far easier.
  - mantas 4y ago
    Nice job comparing worst-possible job changing scenario vs „assuming your business can afford it“ turning down a customer. Changing job is easy too assuming you can easily do it ;)
    - adave 4y ago
      You don't have a great imagination do you if you think the above is the worst scenario. Hint - it's playing out for visa workers right now, 60 days or leave the country.
      - mantas 4y ago
        Changing job on your own accord is not the same as getting fired. And worst-timing-to-get-fired olympics is a great sport :) On a different topic, people working abroad on crappy visa schemes made their own bed. I'm pretty happy I refused an offer to come to US on some crappy visa many years ago. Fuck that. The sooner system fails, the better.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago

You only have that freedom if you don’t want your company to be paid. Saying you can choose customers is no different than saying you can choose to scrub (or not) those toilets. Yes, you always have choices. Consequences are not very different.

scottLobster 4y ago
I'd say the difference between "get paid less" and "go to zero immediately" is pretty large.

zamnos 4y ago

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s1artibartfast 4y ago

Owners can turn down customers and employees can turn down companies. The trade-offs are different but that doesn't mean you are a slave. Changing jobs is extremely easy, the only hard part is wearing the pros and cons of different jobs.

scottLobster 4y ago
Changing jobs is extremely easy? Maybe if you're single and can throw everything you own in a Uhaul, or you live in an area with plentiful jobs in your field of expertise. Moving a family of four from one 1700 sq ft house to another is not easy nor cheap, no matter how it's done. Turning down a customer, assuming your business can afford it, is far easier.
- mantas 4y ago
  Nice job comparing worst-possible job changing scenario vs „assuming your business can afford it“ turning down a customer. Changing job is easy too assuming you can easily do it ;)
  - adave 4y ago
    You don't have a great imagination do you if you think the above is the worst scenario. Hint - it's playing out for visa workers right now, 60 days or leave the country.
    - mantas 4y ago
      Changing job on your own accord is not the same as getting fired. And worst-timing-to-get-fired olympics is a great sport :) On a different topic, people working abroad on crappy visa schemes made their own bed. I'm pretty happy I refused an offer to come to US on some crappy visa many years ago. Fuck that. The sooner system fails, the better.