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The site of the Office of the President of Mongolia is available in top-to-bottom traditional Mongolian script: https://president.mn/mng/ https://president.mn/m

by jfk13 4y ago

The site of the Office of the President of Mongolia is available in top-to-bottom traditional Mongolian script: https://president.mn/mng/ https://president.mn/mng/ Other examples (e.g. vertical Japanese) aren't too hard to find: https://nishinokensetsukogyo.co.jp https://nishinokensetsukogyo.co.jp https://ok-maru.jp https://ok-maru.jp etc.

lelandfe 4y ago
We're looking for vertical to horizontal switching. Not just examples of vertical writing. Almost all extant vertically-written languages are more commonly seen horizontally on the web. Vertical Japanese on the web (from my American understanding) is a design choice, and is notably absent from mainstays like https://www.yahoo.co.jp/ https://www.yahoo.co.jp/ That is to say, it is unlikely that a site's language switcher would opt for top-to-bottom writing. Edit: the Mongolian president's site does have an English version! ...but it's a completely different site :( https://president.mn/en/ https://president.mn/en/. Still, this is the closest to a use case for logical properties I've seen, so kudos.
- jfk13 4y ago
  It's unlikely (I'd guess) that a site would want to offer the exact same page in both horizontal and vertical modes, yes. But it's plausible they might want to share a lot of design elements between horizontal and vertical versions of the content. Using logical properties would make it easier to have a common base of CSS that controls spacing, sizes, etc., that can be used by both language versions, rather than maintaining them completely separately.
  - lelandfe 4y ago
    For finality, I will quote my original comment: > the arguments for these properties revolve around, "well, what if I decide to use traditional Mongolian in the future?," which seems like the biggest case of YAGNI I can think of ...And even this one close example doesn't use them!

by jfk13 4y ago

lelandfe 4y ago

We're looking for vertical to horizontal switching. Not just examples of vertical writing. Almost all extant vertically-written languages are more commonly seen horizontally on the web. Vertical Japanese on the web (from my American understanding) is a design choice, and is notably absent from mainstays like https://www.yahoo.co.jp/ https://www.yahoo.co.jp/ That is to say, it is unlikely that a site's language switcher would opt for top-to-bottom writing. Edit: the Mongolian president's site does have an English version! ...but it's a completely different site :( https://president.mn/en/ https://president.mn/en/. Still, this is the closest to a use case for logical properties I've seen, so kudos.

jfk13 4y ago
It's unlikely (I'd guess) that a site would want to offer the exact same page in both horizontal and vertical modes, yes. But it's plausible they might want to share a lot of design elements between horizontal and vertical versions of the content. Using logical properties would make it easier to have a common base of CSS that controls spacing, sizes, etc., that can be used by both language versions, rather than maintaining them completely separately.
- lelandfe 4y ago
  For finality, I will quote my original comment: > the arguments for these properties revolve around, "well, what if I decide to use traditional Mongolian in the future?," which seems like the biggest case of YAGNI I can think of ...And even this one close example doesn't use them!