I made no real defense of the question, all told. It is written in a very hard to answer way. Just, if there is a way it could work, I'd expect that to be ack

I made no real defense of the question, all told. It is written in a very hard to answer way. Just, if there is a way it could work, I'd expect that to be acknowledged. I will again agree that logic is silly tough for language, though. Context changes the colloquial use of "and," and "or" all of the time.