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Would you say GitLab didn't manage to keep it right over the period of many years? I agree that it's very hard but that's also why we talk to our community and

Would you say GitLab didn't manage to keep it right over the period of many years? I agree that it's very hard but that's also why we talk to our community and wee what they say about what features they need. I really happy hope that we can create a great open product for small teams and individuals over a long term too.

ensignavenger 4y ago
Actually, Gitlab used to be my go-to example of "Open Core done right", but now they have so many closed source features mixed in with open source features it is hard to use the open source product at all. I am either looking for a smaller product with fewer features anyway, or a product with more features (like maybe Gitlab tries to be) and the ones I want are the ones Gitlab happens to keep proprietary! Ultimately, small teams often have the same challenges large teams have. I wish you great luck! PS At some point you might want to do product comparisons on you site- one of you competitors, Hashicorp does a pretty good job of outlining the similarities and differences as they see it with similiar options, I would suggest following their example. Even if Hashicorp ultimately adds a comparison with your product, having your own perspective is very helpful in making a quick comparison.
- dangtony98 4y ago
  I definitely share the concerns/thoughts around open core and keeping too many features closed source here; it's a very difficult thing for companies to figure out what the right balance is for public/closed-source features. There's never a correct balance that satisfies everyone but the best we can do is deliberate which features would be more individual/team-oriented and which would be more enterprise-oriented to be charged. In terms of Infisical, this is honestly something we're still figuring out as we're mapping out our roadmap ahead — We try to get feedback from our community in thinking about this since we all contribute to the codebase (also do feel free to suggest what you think would be appropriate). And yea thanks for the suggestion regarding product comparisons with competitors. We have that on the TODO list in addition to other tasks all related to enriching product information like providing more granular product pricing breakdowns!
- mynameisvlad 4y ago
  I will definitely echo everything said here. Gitlab used to be an amazing example of doing it right but nowadays looking at their release notes, they sprinkle in one or two free features while the vast majority are locked away. They do sometimes give the peasants access to the features months or years later, but the majority of features are still locked away.
  - nicce 4y ago
    Main selling point for GitLab was the CI/CD couple years ago, and now it is so restricted that I just had to leave. After they got that big funding when going public company, free features have been stripped and prices have increased. Same story as usual.

ensignavenger 4y ago

Actually, Gitlab used to be my go-to example of "Open Core done right", but now they have so many closed source features mixed in with open source features it is hard to use the open source product at all. I am either looking for a smaller product with fewer features anyway, or a product with more features (like maybe Gitlab tries to be) and the ones I want are the ones Gitlab happens to keep proprietary! Ultimately, small teams often have the same challenges large teams have. I wish you great luck! PS At some point you might want to do product comparisons on you site- one of you competitors, Hashicorp does a pretty good job of outlining the similarities and differences as they see it with similiar options, I would suggest following their example. Even if Hashicorp ultimately adds a comparison with your product, having your own perspective is very helpful in making a quick comparison.

dangtony98 4y ago
I definitely share the concerns/thoughts around open core and keeping too many features closed source here; it's a very difficult thing for companies to figure out what the right balance is for public/closed-source features. There's never a correct balance that satisfies everyone but the best we can do is deliberate which features would be more individual/team-oriented and which would be more enterprise-oriented to be charged. In terms of Infisical, this is honestly something we're still figuring out as we're mapping out our roadmap ahead — We try to get feedback from our community in thinking about this since we all contribute to the codebase (also do feel free to suggest what you think would be appropriate). And yea thanks for the suggestion regarding product comparisons with competitors. We have that on the TODO list in addition to other tasks all related to enriching product information like providing more granular product pricing breakdowns!
mynameisvlad 4y ago
I will definitely echo everything said here. Gitlab used to be an amazing example of doing it right but nowadays looking at their release notes, they sprinkle in one or two free features while the vast majority are locked away. They do sometimes give the peasants access to the features months or years later, but the majority of features are still locked away.
- nicce 4y ago
  Main selling point for GitLab was the CI/CD couple years ago, and now it is so restricted that I just had to leave. After they got that big funding when going public company, free features have been stripped and prices have increased. Same story as usual.