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>> Heck even an M2 MacBook + Windows VM would do. > I seriously doubt it... And you're right to do so. I've been a pretty hard-core gamer for 30 years. I also

>> Heck even an M2 MacBook + Windows VM would do. > I seriously doubt it... And you're right to do so. I've been a pretty hard-core gamer for 30 years. I also ran Linux on the desktop for almost 20. I've tried every version of Wine and Crossover and Cedega and PopOS to play games. Let's put it this way: I never got rid of my Windows partition. Since buying a Mac, I've tried Parallels, bought an external GPU, and bought 2 MBP's with the highest-end graphics I could get. Let's put it this way: I sold the external GPU, and bought a Playstation. I've wasted a LOT of money on these experiments. TL;DR: Can confirm gaming on a Mac sucks. (I have a couple of games on the Mac, like Civ 5 and Gloomhaven. The first runs OK, but the second I have to detune to almost the minimums, despite having a "Vega 20" GPU. Bite me, Apple.)

Razengan 4y ago
> I've been a pretty hard-core gamer for 30 years. Same. Grew up on the Commodore 64 (long after its sun had set; it's just what my folks allowed me to mess around on as a kid) > TL;DR: Can confirm gaming on a Mac sucks. Nahh. I jumped ship from Windows around 12 years ago and never looked back. Sure I missed out on some stubborn AAA titles, but I've played a lot of great games on the Mac just as well, and between native ports, CrossOver/VMs, and my Vita/3DS/Switch and now the PS5, I've never once thought about booting into Windows.
- smileybarry 4y ago
  CrossOver is great but in this comparison it's essentially a worse Proton, especially now on ARM. VMs I can forgive but now, between picking your poison of WOWARM64 vs Rosetta QEMU, I'm not sure it's as stable anymore.
smileybarry 4y ago
I currently use an eGPU with a Windows 11 PC and that's already with several caveats (and a couple specific games that really hate it). The 30-50% variable overhead absolutely sucks. But it's at least still much better than the throttling onboard GTX 1050 mobile (thanks to some questionable power circuitry from Lenovo).

Razengan 4y ago

> I've been a pretty hard-core gamer for 30 years. Same. Grew up on the Commodore 64 (long after its sun had set; it's just what my folks allowed me to mess around on as a kid) > TL;DR: Can confirm gaming on a Mac sucks. Nahh. I jumped ship from Windows around 12 years ago and never looked back. Sure I missed out on some stubborn AAA titles, but I've played a lot of great games on the Mac just as well, and between native ports, CrossOver/VMs, and my Vita/3DS/Switch and now the PS5, I've never once thought about booting into Windows.

smileybarry 4y ago
CrossOver is great but in this comparison it's essentially a worse Proton, especially now on ARM. VMs I can forgive but now, between picking your poison of WOWARM64 vs Rosetta QEMU, I'm not sure it's as stable anymore.

smileybarry 4y ago

I currently use an eGPU with a Windows 11 PC and that's already with several caveats (and a couple specific games that really hate it). The 30-50% variable overhead absolutely sucks. But it's at least still much better than the throttling onboard GTX 1050 mobile (thanks to some questionable power circuitry from Lenovo).