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> So why we need AI to understand causation when even we don’t have it. We have causation. For example, it is impossible to communicate ideas, for example, wit
by ordu 4y ago
> So why we need AI to understand causation when even we don’t have it.
We have causation. For example, it is impossible to communicate ideas, for example, without resorting to clear distinction of cause and effect. "To turn lights on press a button." It implies causation: pressing a button causes lights to turn on. It is impossible to express with correlation only.
> It’s correlation all the way down.
It is a reductionism. Like atoms have no life in them, therefore there is no life.
> We should strive for truth but know that we will never achieve any
It depends... We can know some Truths already, the trouble is we have no way to distinguish them from mere truths, which are just waiting for a counter example. In this sense we either achieved Truth already, or at least have a good chance to achieve it in a future.
> that is only one counter example from disproving entire theories.
Good theories cannot be disproved. Newton's gravitation is an example of this: it seems impossible to disprove. It has known applicability limits and it just works within them. I do not believe it will be disproved in a future. Or Euclid geometry on a plane as a different example.
- moffkalast 4y agoBut can you be truly sure that lights spontaneously turning on don't cause humans to press on nearby buttons?
- ordu 4y agoYeah, I can. And you can also. You can try this button yourself. You can ask others. You can try to get light-bulb off, and to repeat all other your experiments. You can bring another button and see how people would act. Any kid can find this causal link and identify it as a causal. Scientists was unable to do it with statistics because they rejected too much. But it tells us about weak reasoning abilities of a science, not about non-existence of cause and effect. Now this era of a weak reasoning is coming to an end, because now we have a math of causation.