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I agree. We've had sex toys and prostitutes for thousands of years. Blaming porn is a weak band-aid on a deeper cut.

igetspam 4y ago
Prostitution is high risk and expensive. Porn is zero risk and basically free because we all have Internet access already. Porn is not the problem but it is a serious crutch for those unwilling to address the actual problem, which is generations of teaching men and boys that intimacy isn't important. I have male friends I hug and cry with. I have deep feelings of loss for my pet pig, who challenged my world view on "love animals" and made me rethink how and what I eat. I have a successful marriage with a wonderful, intelligent, beautiful women because I'm not afraid of emotional and psychological intimacy. What sex toys exist for men that aren't just gross receptacles for semen? (I'm not into butt stuff, personally.)
- red-iron-pine 4y ago
  > Prostitution is high risk and expensive Only where it is illegal. Plenty of legal countries with rules & regs regarding behavior, STD testing, protection, etc. > I have male friends I hug and cry with. I have deep feelings of loss for my pet pig, who challenged my world view on "love animals" and made me rethink how and what I eat. I have a successful marriage with a wonderful, intelligent, beautiful women because I'm not afraid of emotional and psychological intimacy. Cool story bro > What sex toys exist for men that aren't just gross receptacles for semen? (I'm not into butt stuff, personally.) why did you feel a need to include this, esp the part in parentheses?
  - jonfromsf 4y ago
    Because the best sex toys for men are prostate vibrators.
  - kcplate 4y ago
    > why did you feel a need to include this… That was at least somewhat on topic. The whole “rethinking how and what I eat” seemed way more out of place to me.
    - igetspam 4y ago
      Because I'm able to take input from my emotions and apply them to how I make decisions. This is an important part of the human condition that we attempt to train out of boys. It's a thing we think of as a feminine response and a weakness but the reality is that it makes us open and able to change and grow.
      - kcplate 4y ago
        Ok, good for you and your enlightenment and openness, but still don’t see how it applies on this thread. The original article didn’t seem to touch on traditional effeminate qualities creating the relationship imbalances and the comment thread didn’t seem to mention it…either so it seemed out of place and forced—basically came off as a a virtue signal to me.
  - igetspam 4y ago
    > Only where it is illegal. Plenty of legal countries with rules & regs regarding behavior, STD testing, protection, etc. Ish. Lower risk but I accept your point. Still not free. > Cool story bro Thanks. I can only assume that you're both my target audience and because of that, incapable of getting the point. > why did you feel a need to include this, esp the part in parentheses? Because the comment I was replying to included sex toys as part of the argument. I was presenting the butt plug/anal stimulation response with the parentheses. It may not have been strictly necessary but the stupidity of defensive male responses makes it worthwhile to get ahead of things.

Prostitution is high risk and expensive. Porn is zero risk and basically free because we all have Internet access already. Porn is not the problem but it is a serious crutch for those unwilling to address the actual problem, which is generations of teaching men and boys that intimacy isn't important. I have male friends I hug and cry with. I have deep feelings of loss for my pet pig, who challenged my world view on "love animals" and made me rethink how and what I eat. I have a successful marriage with a wonderful, intelligent, beautiful women because I'm not afraid of emotional and psychological intimacy. What sex toys exist for men that aren't just gross receptacles for semen? (I'm not into butt stuff, personally.)

red-iron-pine 4y ago
> Prostitution is high risk and expensive Only where it is illegal. Plenty of legal countries with rules & regs regarding behavior, STD testing, protection, etc. > I have male friends I hug and cry with. I have deep feelings of loss for my pet pig, who challenged my world view on "love animals" and made me rethink how and what I eat. I have a successful marriage with a wonderful, intelligent, beautiful women because I'm not afraid of emotional and psychological intimacy. Cool story bro > What sex toys exist for men that aren't just gross receptacles for semen? (I'm not into butt stuff, personally.) why did you feel a need to include this, esp the part in parentheses?
- jonfromsf 4y ago
  Because the best sex toys for men are prostate vibrators.
- kcplate 4y ago
  > why did you feel a need to include this… That was at least somewhat on topic. The whole “rethinking how and what I eat” seemed way more out of place to me.
  - igetspam 4y ago
    Because I'm able to take input from my emotions and apply them to how I make decisions. This is an important part of the human condition that we attempt to train out of boys. It's a thing we think of as a feminine response and a weakness but the reality is that it makes us open and able to change and grow.
    - kcplate 4y ago
      Ok, good for you and your enlightenment and openness, but still don’t see how it applies on this thread. The original article didn’t seem to touch on traditional effeminate qualities creating the relationship imbalances and the comment thread didn’t seem to mention it…either so it seemed out of place and forced—basically came off as a a virtue signal to me.
- igetspam 4y ago
  > Only where it is illegal. Plenty of legal countries with rules & regs regarding behavior, STD testing, protection, etc. Ish. Lower risk but I accept your point. Still not free. > Cool story bro Thanks. I can only assume that you're both my target audience and because of that, incapable of getting the point. > why did you feel a need to include this, esp the part in parentheses? Because the comment I was replying to included sex toys as part of the argument. I was presenting the butt plug/anal stimulation response with the parentheses. It may not have been strictly necessary but the stupidity of defensive male responses makes it worthwhile to get ahead of things.