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Elon Musk calls US media and schools ‘racist against whites and Asians’

10 points by thread_id 4y ago

Zigurd 4y ago
Imagine Jim Farley going on a rant like this. How many minutes would he last?
thread_id 4y ago
Elon stop already. This isn't going to get your 44bln back. Its not going to help your Tesla brand or make manned Spacex flights safer. Where's the BOD? What are they doing?
- realjhol 4y ago
  Why are you so worried about him? Weird
  - thread_id 4y ago
    Investment position in Tesla. Everytme he does this shit stocktakes a hit. Not weird.
senttoschool 4y ago
Racist against asians? Absolutely. The western media is quite anti-Asian. Whites? I don't know.
bitfhacker 4y ago
I understand Musk... Why "It's not ok to be white"?
- yawpitch 4y ago
  That wasn’t the (inherently biased and stupid) question, the (inherently biased and stupid) question was ‘Do you agree or disagree with this statement: “It’s OK to be white.’… notwithstanding the simple fact that the idiots asking the question are actively and aggressively producing dogwhistle results for their exclusively right-leaning, middle-aged-or-older, almost-exclusively white and male audience, disagreeing with the statement doesn’t imply negation of the statement, it can also very reasonably imply that the person being asked understands that the statement is absurd.
  - realjhol 4y ago
    Oh right... so is it not OK to be right-leaning, middle aged, white or male? Is there something wrong with that?
    - yawpitch 4y ago
      Apparently you _also_ have a need to imagine, supply, or interject negation where none exists… A member of any (and especially all) of those groups _knows_ that it’s “OK” to be a member; considerably more than OK, actually, as the default privilege assigned to those characteristics by the rigging of the game makes it _vastly_ easier to be one of those haves rather than one of the have-nots — as always, membership has its privileges. For anyone _not_ a member, they _also_ know it’s OK to be a member… moreover, they _know_ precisely what it means when a member (entirely disingenuously) asks them the (idiot) question, “is it OK to be [what you’re not]?” while grinning with anticipation of being able to turn back to their fellow members and feign injury and victimization _regardless_ of the answer. In short, no, there’s nothing wrong with being any of those things, except possibly having a default further distance to travel in the pursuit of not being an asshole.
      - realjhol 4y ago
        > A member of any (and especially all) of those groups _knows_ that it’s “OK” to be a member; considerably more than OK, actually, as the default privilege assigned to those characteristics by the rigging of the game makes it _vastly_ easier to be one of those haves rather than one of the have-nots — as always, membership has its privileges. It's the original sin of White people. It doesn't matter what they've done, what challenges they've faced, where in the world they live, what their actual ethnic group or nationality is, what their class or income status is etc. etc. - none of that matters. Only one thing matters: skin colour, and if yours is wrong, then you're "privaleged" (even if you live in a trailer park). No - your toxic politics of envy and resentment are best ignored entirely. > while grinning with anticipation of being able to turn back to their fellow members and feign injury and victimization No. The point is to unmask your hypocricy. You don't actually have a problem with racism pe se - because it's OK when you do it. You're not here to make anything better or fix anything. The fact that "It's OK to be white" presents such a problem to you, simply demonstrates that this is all just a tool to punish the chuds - once you strip back the mental gymnastics, that's really all your ideology amounts to.
cyclecount 4y ago
Here's a very succinct explanation of why "reverse racism" is nonsense: https://www.aclrc.com/myth-of-reverse-racism https://www.aclrc.com/myth-of-reverse-racism
- realjhol 4y ago
  It's not nonsense though is it? You just want a double standard. The very fact that you race grifters are in a position to cultivate this double standard demonstrates who has power, and who does not. At root, you don't actually care about racism- as a matter of principle. It's just a cudgel to reward friends, and punish enemies.
  - yawpitch 4y ago
    > It's not nonsense though is it? Nope… it really is just nonsense. Also, arguably, one who cares about racism as a matter of principle ALSO wants a cudgel with which to punish racists.
    - realjhol 4y ago
      "Racism isn't racism when we do it, so we're not racists - you're the racists, which is why we hate you and why we're going to punish you, LOL"
      - yawpitch 4y ago
        One doesn’t punish a member of the Einsatzgruppen for identifying as Aryan, one punishes them for being a member of the Einsatzgruppen. Incidentally — though perhaps not all that surprisingly — what a member of the Einsatzgruppen would sneer and spit as just punishment arrived would look pretty much like what you’ve written in air quotes there.
        realjhol 4y ago
        > One doesn’t punish a member of the Einsatzgruppen for identifying as Aryan, one punishes them for being a member of the Einsatzgruppen. Right... but no white people today actually are a member of the Einsatzgruppen (appart from a few dozen LARPers), so I really don't get why you're so desperate to punish white people for things that have nothing to do with them. > what a member of the Einsatzgruppen would sneer and spit as just punishment arrived would look pretty much like what you’ve written in air quotes there. Yes. I'm paraphrasing what you're saying. It's very abusive isn't it?
BossHogg 4y ago
So Black conservatives can't be peddling anti-Blackness because they're Black. Four cops who kill a Black man can't be practicing anti-Black racism because they're Black. But the White owned media with overwhelmingly White staff can be racist against whites. Certainly no hypocrisy in contemporary conservative thought.
Zigurd 4y ago
That's jumping right in to the white supremacists' meme pool. Musk is half a step behind Scott Adams.

10 points by thread_id 4y ago

Imagine Jim Farley going on a rant like this. How many minutes would he last?

Elon stop already. This isn't going to get your 44bln back. Its not going to help your Tesla brand or make manned Spacex flights safer. Where's the BOD? What are they doing?

realjhol 4y ago
Why are you so worried about him? Weird
- thread_id 4y ago
  Investment position in Tesla. Everytme he does this shit stocktakes a hit. Not weird.

senttoschool 4y ago

Racist against asians? Absolutely. The western media is quite anti-Asian. Whites? I don't know.

bitfhacker 4y ago

I understand Musk... Why "It's not ok to be white"?

yawpitch 4y ago
That wasn’t the (inherently biased and stupid) question, the (inherently biased and stupid) question was ‘Do you agree or disagree with this statement: “It’s OK to be white.’… notwithstanding the simple fact that the idiots asking the question are actively and aggressively producing dogwhistle results for their exclusively right-leaning, middle-aged-or-older, almost-exclusively white and male audience, disagreeing with the statement doesn’t imply negation of the statement, it can also very reasonably imply that the person being asked understands that the statement is absurd.
- realjhol 4y ago
  Oh right... so is it not OK to be right-leaning, middle aged, white or male? Is there something wrong with that?
  - yawpitch 4y ago
    Apparently you _also_ have a need to imagine, supply, or interject negation where none exists… A member of any (and especially all) of those groups _knows_ that it’s “OK” to be a member; considerably more than OK, actually, as the default privilege assigned to those characteristics by the rigging of the game makes it _vastly_ easier to be one of those haves rather than one of the have-nots — as always, membership has its privileges. For anyone _not_ a member, they _also_ know it’s OK to be a member… moreover, they _know_ precisely what it means when a member (entirely disingenuously) asks them the (idiot) question, “is it OK to be [what you’re not]?” while grinning with anticipation of being able to turn back to their fellow members and feign injury and victimization _regardless_ of the answer. In short, no, there’s nothing wrong with being any of those things, except possibly having a default further distance to travel in the pursuit of not being an asshole.
    - realjhol 4y ago
      > A member of any (and especially all) of those groups _knows_ that it’s “OK” to be a member; considerably more than OK, actually, as the default privilege assigned to those characteristics by the rigging of the game makes it _vastly_ easier to be one of those haves rather than one of the have-nots — as always, membership has its privileges. It's the original sin of White people. It doesn't matter what they've done, what challenges they've faced, where in the world they live, what their actual ethnic group or nationality is, what their class or income status is etc. etc. - none of that matters. Only one thing matters: skin colour, and if yours is wrong, then you're "privaleged" (even if you live in a trailer park). No - your toxic politics of envy and resentment are best ignored entirely. > while grinning with anticipation of being able to turn back to their fellow members and feign injury and victimization No. The point is to unmask your hypocricy. You don't actually have a problem with racism pe se - because it's OK when you do it. You're not here to make anything better or fix anything. The fact that "It's OK to be white" presents such a problem to you, simply demonstrates that this is all just a tool to punish the chuds - once you strip back the mental gymnastics, that's really all your ideology amounts to.

cyclecount 4y ago

Here's a very succinct explanation of why "reverse racism" is nonsense: https://www.aclrc.com/myth-of-reverse-racism https://www.aclrc.com/myth-of-reverse-racism

realjhol 4y ago
It's not nonsense though is it? You just want a double standard. The very fact that you race grifters are in a position to cultivate this double standard demonstrates who has power, and who does not. At root, you don't actually care about racism- as a matter of principle. It's just a cudgel to reward friends, and punish enemies.
- yawpitch 4y ago
  > It's not nonsense though is it? Nope… it really is just nonsense. Also, arguably, one who cares about racism as a matter of principle ALSO wants a cudgel with which to punish racists.
  - realjhol 4y ago
    "Racism isn't racism when we do it, so we're not racists - you're the racists, which is why we hate you and why we're going to punish you, LOL"
    - yawpitch 4y ago
      One doesn’t punish a member of the Einsatzgruppen for identifying as Aryan, one punishes them for being a member of the Einsatzgruppen. Incidentally — though perhaps not all that surprisingly — what a member of the Einsatzgruppen would sneer and spit as just punishment arrived would look pretty much like what you’ve written in air quotes there.
      - realjhol 4y ago
        > One doesn’t punish a member of the Einsatzgruppen for identifying as Aryan, one punishes them for being a member of the Einsatzgruppen. Right... but no white people today actually are a member of the Einsatzgruppen (appart from a few dozen LARPers), so I really don't get why you're so desperate to punish white people for things that have nothing to do with them. > what a member of the Einsatzgruppen would sneer and spit as just punishment arrived would look pretty much like what you’ve written in air quotes there. Yes. I'm paraphrasing what you're saying. It's very abusive isn't it?

BossHogg 4y ago

So Black conservatives can't be peddling anti-Blackness because they're Black. Four cops who kill a Black man can't be practicing anti-Black racism because they're Black. But the White owned media with overwhelmingly White staff can be racist against whites. Certainly no hypocrisy in contemporary conservative thought.

Zigurd 4y ago

That's jumping right in to the white supremacists' meme pool. Musk is half a step behind Scott Adams.