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I actually thought that part was perfectly clear. > In general, the letter combination ال should be common. So if your text has more than a few words, you sho

by SamBam 4y ago

I actually thought that part was perfectly clear. > In general, the letter combination ال should be common. So if your text has more than a few words, you should be able to look though your text and see that somewhere. I can't read Arabic but I can recognize that pattern. I went to https://www.bbc.com/arabic https://www.bbc.com/arabic and could find numerous occurrences. It's a bit like saying "if you have a paragraph in 'English' and it has no e's in it, it's probably not English."

ramin_hal9001 4y ago
> It's a bit like saying "if you have a paragraph in 'English' and it has no e's in it, it's probably not English." This is true. You should also be able to see the word "the" in several places in English text, and if it is rendered as "ehT" or something like that, the ligature code may have a bug -- similar with reversing the ال (read as "al") pattern. > I can't read Arabic but I can recognize that pattern. I went to https://www.bbc.com/arabic https://www.bbc.com/arabic and could find numerous occurrences. Really? I only ever learned to read just enough Arabic to read parts of the Quor'an and am by no means fluent, but I couldn't see any mistakes on that website myself.
- Nition 4y ago
  The comment was that they found numerous cases of ال, not ل ا.
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fortran77 4y ago
> It's a bit like saying "if you have a paragraph in 'English' and it has no e's in it, it's probably not English." For the exception, see see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsby_(novel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsby_(novel)
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Wow, having read the example prose, it is quite an interesting sounding book.
  - ehecatl42 4y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ella_Minnow_Pea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ella_Minnow_Pea is a riot of a read. Starts with a full complement of letters and drops one letter chapter by chapter.
quickthrower2 4y ago
A group of flying kookaburras flap about a body of liquid. In this group, individuals distinguish from distinct sorts. Small, big, colorful or plain, all flap wings as a way to maintain afloat. It's a sight to watch as this group zips, zooms, and turns all around. It's a natural habitat for this flying squad, and you can find it in many spots around our world. This group adds to our natural world's charm and, through its distinct traits, brings a lot of joy to many.
- adaml_623 4y ago
  Great example because if that text is on your corporate website then someone upstream is not doing their job Edit: obviously it is English but it's definitely not correct for a company website.
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    Hey, you now want corporate website standard English with no Es? Talk about scope creep!
  - mcv 4y ago
    But it may be totally correct for a website about kookaburras. There's more than just corporate websites, and frankly, if a company of any meaningful size offers content in Arabic, I'd expect them to hire someone for that. Even part-time or freelance.
    - thaumasiotes 4y ago
      > But it may be totally correct for a website about kookaburras. It isn't; "to maintain afloat" is not grammatical. You could replace that with "stay afloat" and it would fix the grammatical error without introducing an E. There's a similar unforced error in referring to a "group" of kookaburras rather than a "flock". "Individuals distinguish from distinct sorts" is gibberish. I cannot tell what it's supposed to mean. "All flap wings as a way to [stay] afloat" is, at best, very awkward; fluent English would require "flap their wings", but that would introduce an E. "Flapping about a body of liquid" is a very odd thing to say unless the body of liquid happens to be suspended in midair, since midair is the only location where you can find birds flapping.
BoiledCabbage 4y ago
> In general, the letter combination ال should be common. It was a really smart way of saying you don't need to know anything at all to pattern match on this a spot a very common problem. Also, if you haven't checked out the youtube video on that page I highly recommend it. It gives a great concise summary of the issue, and it's impressive how much I was able to learn to visually parse Arabic script with only a couple of mins into the video. [1] - https://youtu.be/X1ynZm1wI18?t=65 https://youtu.be/X1ynZm1wI18?t=65
roenxi 4y ago
The article even links to a site where you can practice: https://notarabic.com/ https://notarabic.com/ Thanks to this training, I can now identify that numerous Arabic strings on that site are backwards. He wasn't joking, IJ is everywhere.

by SamBam 4y ago

ramin_hal9001 4y ago

> It's a bit like saying "if you have a paragraph in 'English' and it has no e's in it, it's probably not English." This is true. You should also be able to see the word "the" in several places in English text, and if it is rendered as "ehT" or something like that, the ligature code may have a bug -- similar with reversing the ال (read as "al") pattern. > I can't read Arabic but I can recognize that pattern. I went to https://www.bbc.com/arabic https://www.bbc.com/arabic and could find numerous occurrences. Really? I only ever learned to read just enough Arabic to read parts of the Quor'an and am by no means fluent, but I couldn't see any mistakes on that website myself.

Nition 4y ago
The comment was that they found numerous cases of ال, not ل ا.

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fortran77 4y ago

> It's a bit like saying "if you have a paragraph in 'English' and it has no e's in it, it's probably not English." For the exception, see see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsby_(novel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsby_(novel)

quickthrower2 4y ago
Wow, having read the example prose, it is quite an interesting sounding book.
- ehecatl42 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ella_Minnow_Pea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ella_Minnow_Pea is a riot of a read. Starts with a full complement of letters and drops one letter chapter by chapter.

quickthrower2 4y ago

A group of flying kookaburras flap about a body of liquid. In this group, individuals distinguish from distinct sorts. Small, big, colorful or plain, all flap wings as a way to maintain afloat. It's a sight to watch as this group zips, zooms, and turns all around. It's a natural habitat for this flying squad, and you can find it in many spots around our world. This group adds to our natural world's charm and, through its distinct traits, brings a lot of joy to many.

adaml_623 4y ago
Great example because if that text is on your corporate website then someone upstream is not doing their job Edit: obviously it is English but it's definitely not correct for a company website.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Hey, you now want corporate website standard English with no Es? Talk about scope creep!
- mcv 4y ago
  But it may be totally correct for a website about kookaburras. There's more than just corporate websites, and frankly, if a company of any meaningful size offers content in Arabic, I'd expect them to hire someone for that. Even part-time or freelance.
  - thaumasiotes 4y ago
    > But it may be totally correct for a website about kookaburras. It isn't; "to maintain afloat" is not grammatical. You could replace that with "stay afloat" and it would fix the grammatical error without introducing an E. There's a similar unforced error in referring to a "group" of kookaburras rather than a "flock". "Individuals distinguish from distinct sorts" is gibberish. I cannot tell what it's supposed to mean. "All flap wings as a way to [stay] afloat" is, at best, very awkward; fluent English would require "flap their wings", but that would introduce an E. "Flapping about a body of liquid" is a very odd thing to say unless the body of liquid happens to be suspended in midair, since midair is the only location where you can find birds flapping.

BoiledCabbage 4y ago

> In general, the letter combination ال should be common. It was a really smart way of saying you don't need to know anything at all to pattern match on this a spot a very common problem. Also, if you haven't checked out the youtube video on that page I highly recommend it. It gives a great concise summary of the issue, and it's impressive how much I was able to learn to visually parse Arabic script with only a couple of mins into the video. [1] - https://youtu.be/X1ynZm1wI18?t=65 https://youtu.be/X1ynZm1wI18?t=65

roenxi 4y ago

The article even links to a site where you can practice: https://notarabic.com/ https://notarabic.com/ Thanks to this training, I can now identify that numerous Arabic strings on that site are backwards. He wasn't joking, IJ is everywhere.