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I am equally repelled by VPNs[1] and CDNs[2]. I probably should have started with my own articles. 1 - https://danuker.go.ro/dont-use-vpns.html https://danuker

I am equally repelled by VPNs[1] and CDNs[2]. I probably should have started with my own articles. 1 - https://danuker.go.ro/dont-use-vpns.html https://danuker.go.ro/dont-use-vpns.html 2 - https://danuker.go.ro/how-to-protect-your-personal-data.html https://danuker.go.ro/how-to-protect-your-personal-data.html

corobo 4y ago
Even your own article (VPN hate is a given, of course, moving on) doesn't really go into the why of the reasoning. They might get hacked? So might my site! In fact if you were a dedicated attacker I'd advise you go after my hosting rather than try to crack Cloudflare, it'll be much quicker. Probably be even quicker to just come at me irl and start snapping fingers until I logged you in as an admin. They might sell data or censor my site? I doubt they would but if they did start doing so it takes like 20 seconds to update the nameservers. I'm not being held hostage, promise! The arguments just don't work when it's my site and I've consented to using Cloudflare. You're welcome to block Cloudflare's networks your side if you don't want to use them of course but I want all of the things they do in between you and my site. That's why am using them.
- danuker 4y ago
  > it takes like 20 seconds to update the nameservers Users are being denied your site without your knowledge. People using nonstandard browsers (such as for accessibility or security reasons), Tor/I2P for privacy, scrapers, hobbyists and so on. Maybe the content is replaced in certain cases (like governments targeting certain individuals). > I'm not being held hostage, promise! If you can easily turn off the CDN and still serve your traffic with reasonable performance, then you are not. Otherwise, you are.
  - corobo 4y ago
    With my knowledge. Quit assuming people are naive haha. I'm aware that some people may get bounced. Chances are it was me that set that setting that bounced them. If you got bounced from a Cloudflare fronted site it was more likely the site admin wanted to bounce traffic like you than Cloudflare acting nefarious. Have a browse through the settings some time, see what's available. I'm pretty sure it's a single toggle in Cloudflare to enable my site on a tor domain too. Can't find the setting right now (on lunch, not used to mobile dash) but I've seen it somewhere. > If you can easily turn off the CDN and still serve your traffic with reasonable performance, then you are not Yeah that's easy enough, no worries. The bits I use Cloudflare for aren't strictly site performance related (cache close to the users is handy, of course) - I can make a webserver purr with the best of them. I can't afford to deploy servers globally and anycast them right now. Not to mention the administration burden. I could, sure, with the right budget. I don't have that budget. Might be a little pain moving redirects somewhere else but nothing I'd need to cancel plans for.

corobo 4y ago

Even your own article (VPN hate is a given, of course, moving on) doesn't really go into the why of the reasoning. They might get hacked? So might my site! In fact if you were a dedicated attacker I'd advise you go after my hosting rather than try to crack Cloudflare, it'll be much quicker. Probably be even quicker to just come at me irl and start snapping fingers until I logged you in as an admin. They might sell data or censor my site? I doubt they would but if they did start doing so it takes like 20 seconds to update the nameservers. I'm not being held hostage, promise! The arguments just don't work when it's my site and I've consented to using Cloudflare. You're welcome to block Cloudflare's networks your side if you don't want to use them of course but I want all of the things they do in between you and my site. That's why am using them.

danuker 4y ago
> it takes like 20 seconds to update the nameservers Users are being denied your site without your knowledge. People using nonstandard browsers (such as for accessibility or security reasons), Tor/I2P for privacy, scrapers, hobbyists and so on. Maybe the content is replaced in certain cases (like governments targeting certain individuals). > I'm not being held hostage, promise! If you can easily turn off the CDN and still serve your traffic with reasonable performance, then you are not. Otherwise, you are.
- corobo 4y ago
  With my knowledge. Quit assuming people are naive haha. I'm aware that some people may get bounced. Chances are it was me that set that setting that bounced them. If you got bounced from a Cloudflare fronted site it was more likely the site admin wanted to bounce traffic like you than Cloudflare acting nefarious. Have a browse through the settings some time, see what's available. I'm pretty sure it's a single toggle in Cloudflare to enable my site on a tor domain too. Can't find the setting right now (on lunch, not used to mobile dash) but I've seen it somewhere. > If you can easily turn off the CDN and still serve your traffic with reasonable performance, then you are not Yeah that's easy enough, no worries. The bits I use Cloudflare for aren't strictly site performance related (cache close to the users is handy, of course) - I can make a webserver purr with the best of them. I can't afford to deploy servers globally and anycast them right now. Not to mention the administration burden. I could, sure, with the right budget. I don't have that budget. Might be a little pain moving redirects somewhere else but nothing I'd need to cancel plans for.