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I'm sorry, but all I read here is the suggestion to accommodate greed instead of music or art. Which may be perfectly sound (no pun intended) advice for anyone

by rickmb 15y ago

I'm sorry, but all I read here is the suggestion to accommodate greed instead of music or art. Which may be perfectly sound (no pun intended) advice for anyone trying to do a startup related to the music industry, but it has nothing to do with disrupting it. Disrupting the music industry would be taking all of that unsustainable crap that turns the artist into "a package" out of the equation, not perpetuating it.

LesZedCB 15y ago
What might be the best way to disrupt an industry? I believe it is to provide competitors which beat out the other competition because they are so much better. He isn't talking about greed, he's talking about business sense... Or do you want to go attack their websites or something silly like that? Also why is calling artists a 'package' disrupting? I agree they are people. But when I want to listen to Led Zeppelin, I don't think about how I want to listen to the musical contributions of Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, John Bonham, and John Paul Jones during their career together. No, I experience them as the musical whole. I think that's all he means.
- rickmb 15y ago
  He's talking about supporting all the hangers-on, the stylist, make-up artist, managers etcetera. That is purely perpetuating the parasitic industry that has latched itself onto popular music. Disrupting the industry in my view means separating that stuff from the production and distribution of the actual music, so that those of use that wish to make and/or consume music are not forced to sustain and entire industry we neither want nor need, and has fuck all to do with music. That BTW doesn't mean I don't recognize an act like Lady Gaga as a legitimate artistic and commercial product, I just think that it belongs in an entirely different industry where music is secondary. One most musicians wouldn't want a part of if there were other options, and most music lovers don't want to pay for (because most of the money you pay for "legal" music goes to that industry, not the musicians who's music you actually want). Making that happen is the disruption consumers and musicians are waiting for.

by rickmb 15y ago

LesZedCB 15y ago

What might be the best way to disrupt an industry? I believe it is to provide competitors which beat out the other competition because they are so much better. He isn't talking about greed, he's talking about business sense... Or do you want to go attack their websites or something silly like that? Also why is calling artists a 'package' disrupting? I agree they are people. But when I want to listen to Led Zeppelin, I don't think about how I want to listen to the musical contributions of Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, John Bonham, and John Paul Jones during their career together. No, I experience them as the musical whole. I think that's all he means.

rickmb 15y ago
He's talking about supporting all the hangers-on, the stylist, make-up artist, managers etcetera. That is purely perpetuating the parasitic industry that has latched itself onto popular music. Disrupting the industry in my view means separating that stuff from the production and distribution of the actual music, so that those of use that wish to make and/or consume music are not forced to sustain and entire industry we neither want nor need, and has fuck all to do with music. That BTW doesn't mean I don't recognize an act like Lady Gaga as a legitimate artistic and commercial product, I just think that it belongs in an entirely different industry where music is secondary. One most musicians wouldn't want a part of if there were other options, and most music lovers don't want to pay for (because most of the money you pay for "legal" music goes to that industry, not the musicians who's music you actually want). Making that happen is the disruption consumers and musicians are waiting for.