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Because we had a racist president who said stuff like "China virus" in a stupid and demeaning way--i.e. what may have been a valid and reasonable argument or po

by ss108 4y ago

Because we had a racist president who said stuff like "China virus" in a stupid and demeaning way--i.e. what may have been a valid and reasonable argument or position had its credibility ruined by being taken up by Trump and his ilk for their own ends.

walkhour 4y ago
Naming something by its origin it's not racist. The tone you're talking about is a completely subjective statement, and it has no place in a serious discussion. Using that name should've never been controversial and making it controversial was creating drama where there was none. The fact that people are still hurt about Trump saying that years ago shows how unprepared we are to have a discussion about anything.
- ss108 4y ago
  This just willfully tone deaf as to what was going on and being implied then. The other component of it was this kind of "blame China" attitude he was trying to engender to deflect blame, and that's another reason why the theory never caught on. (Also to be clear, it's not even that the China stuff made him racist; he clearly established himself as a racist, and then he said that stuff, which I agree wasn't necessarily racist. But of course, he wasn't speaking in a vacuum, he was speaking in the context of himself and his whole presidency, which led everyone to naturally assume the worst of it.)
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  - the_doctah 4y ago
    You really like using that word, racist. The problem is that's just your opinion. But you seem to be heavily focused on it. I think this is more of a you problem.
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- Tokkemon 4y ago
  He also used "Kung Flu." Come on, anyone with a brainstem could see he was promoting anti-Asian sentiment and did nothing to denounce anti-Asian hate crimes at home.
  - recuter 4y ago
    Kung Flu is funny and catchy. Anyone with a brainstem can see you have an anti-humor sentiment.
diebeforei485 4y ago
> had its credibility ruined Avoid the passive voice. News companies and social media content moderators, who dislike Trump and overwhelmingly donated to his opponent, decided that the lab leak was not credible.
mardifoufs 4y ago
I mean, indirectly defending China by completely discrediting and demonizing any discussion the origins of a life-changing pandemic... to own Trump? is just... a bit pathetic honestly. It ironically completely ruins the credibility of those who were so keen to completely stonewall a super important issue just because they are so drunk on partisanship that Trunp being right isn't even a possibility. Peak Blue MAGA
uonpopular_th 4y ago
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by ss108 4y ago

walkhour 4y ago

Naming something by its origin it's not racist. The tone you're talking about is a completely subjective statement, and it has no place in a serious discussion. Using that name should've never been controversial and making it controversial was creating drama where there was none. The fact that people are still hurt about Trump saying that years ago shows how unprepared we are to have a discussion about anything.

ss108 4y ago
This just willfully tone deaf as to what was going on and being implied then. The other component of it was this kind of "blame China" attitude he was trying to engender to deflect blame, and that's another reason why the theory never caught on. (Also to be clear, it's not even that the China stuff made him racist; he clearly established himself as a racist, and then he said that stuff, which I agree wasn't necessarily racist. But of course, he wasn't speaking in a vacuum, he was speaking in the context of himself and his whole presidency, which led everyone to naturally assume the worst of it.)
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- the_doctah 4y ago
  You really like using that word, racist. The problem is that's just your opinion. But you seem to be heavily focused on it. I think this is more of a you problem.
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Tokkemon 4y ago
He also used "Kung Flu." Come on, anyone with a brainstem could see he was promoting anti-Asian sentiment and did nothing to denounce anti-Asian hate crimes at home.
- recuter 4y ago
  Kung Flu is funny and catchy. Anyone with a brainstem can see you have an anti-humor sentiment.

diebeforei485 4y ago

> had its credibility ruined Avoid the passive voice. News companies and social media content moderators, who dislike Trump and overwhelmingly donated to his opponent, decided that the lab leak was not credible.

mardifoufs 4y ago

I mean, indirectly defending China by completely discrediting and demonizing any discussion the origins of a life-changing pandemic... to own Trump? is just... a bit pathetic honestly. It ironically completely ruins the credibility of those who were so keen to completely stonewall a super important issue just because they are so drunk on partisanship that Trunp being right isn't even a possibility. Peak Blue MAGA

uonpopular_th 4y ago

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