That's not at all what I'm arguing. My comment was purely a response to > I think we need an objective rather than a relative definition if we're going to do a

That's not at all what I'm arguing. My comment was purely a response to > I think we need an objective rather than a relative definition if we're going to do anything other than move goalposts. I claimed that this is a nonsensical statement for two reasons: 1. You imply that relativity and objectivity are at odds (they aren't -- "I'm taller than my mom" is both a relative and an objective statement). 2. You claim that in order to have a meaningful conversation about conservatism and progressivism, these terms must be defined in an absolute sense. But they are by definition relative. Most of my comment illustrates this point.