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One criticism I have heard of the data collection around this wet market is that from the beginning, chinese officials rules out a lab leak. Not because the dat

by jjeaff 4y ago

One criticism I have heard of the data collection around this wet market is that from the beginning, chinese officials rules out a lab leak. Not because the data said so, but because it would look bad for them. So this has cause a lot of data collection only around this wet market and places connected to the wet market. Which, unsurprisingly, has led to lots of cases found connected to the wet market and not many other places.

MilnerRoute 4y ago
> "this has cause a lot of data collection only around this wet market" I hadn't heard that. That's an interesting theory. I guess my response would be: has it changed where data is collected? Drilling down into the report, their data came from "individuals who had used a COVID-19 assistance channel on Sina Weibo, a Chinese social media platform." It wasn't originally intended for public reporting on case locations -- so there's not any mechanism there for filtering out cases from one location while favoring cases from another.
LorenPechtel 4y ago
While they focused on the wet market that doesn't mean they would have ignored cases from people who didn't go there because they would have to identify cases first and then find out where they were. At the time it simply wasn't feasible to check those near the wet market to see if they were infected. The focus was on the wet market before we had viable large scale testing. Only checking the wet market would only make sense in an immobile society.
igouy 4y ago
"The sale of wild animals without permits in China carries severe penalties involving steep fines and imprisonment. The tick study that documented the sale of illegal animals in the Huanan market observed, however, that the sellers were not too concerned about law enforcement, and that plainly illegal animals were openly sold. It is unclear whether any of the animal traders engaged in illegal wildlife commerce have been since found, fined or punished. The swift clear-out of the market may have been intended to protect them as well as the law-enforcement officers and local politicians who had looked the other way." "The Contested Origin of SARS-CoV-2" 26 Nov 2021 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00396338.2021.2006442 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00396338.2021.2...

by jjeaff 4y ago

MilnerRoute 4y ago

> "this has cause a lot of data collection only around this wet market" I hadn't heard that. That's an interesting theory. I guess my response would be: has it changed where data is collected? Drilling down into the report, their data came from "individuals who had used a COVID-19 assistance channel on Sina Weibo, a Chinese social media platform." It wasn't originally intended for public reporting on case locations -- so there's not any mechanism there for filtering out cases from one location while favoring cases from another.

LorenPechtel 4y ago

While they focused on the wet market that doesn't mean they would have ignored cases from people who didn't go there because they would have to identify cases first and then find out where they were. At the time it simply wasn't feasible to check those near the wet market to see if they were infected. The focus was on the wet market before we had viable large scale testing. Only checking the wet market would only make sense in an immobile society.

igouy 4y ago

"The sale of wild animals without permits in China carries severe penalties involving steep fines and imprisonment. The tick study that documented the sale of illegal animals in the Huanan market observed, however, that the sellers were not too concerned about law enforcement, and that plainly illegal animals were openly sold. It is unclear whether any of the animal traders engaged in illegal wildlife commerce have been since found, fined or punished. The swift clear-out of the market may have been intended to protect them as well as the law-enforcement officers and local politicians who had looked the other way." "The Contested Origin of SARS-CoV-2" 26 Nov 2021 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00396338.2021.2006442 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00396338.2021.2...