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You're really not helping the cause here by defining "woman" in such a way that trans women are unambiguously excluded. There's an important debate to be had he
by nicoburns 4y ago
You're really not helping the cause here by defining "woman" in such a way that trans women are unambiguously excluded. There's an important debate to be had here about the nature of gender and the role it ought to have in society. And we can't have that debate if people insist on using language that presumes the answer.
- donocin 4y ago[flagged]
- dmix 4y agoWe also can't have a debate about defining women where even daring to ask the question brings about mobs. As much as the absolutist "men can never become women" crowd attempts to shut down these debates there's also the equally harmful groups who say that "anyone who says they are a woman is one and even questioning that makes you a transphobe". It's easier to dismiss the former as intolerant, but the latter is becoming the (only) socially accepted opinion on places like Reddit. Which is insidious for such a contentious topic. I personally don't see how we can solve this cultural issue without there being some very clear grey area in between.
- donocin 4y ago> As much as the absolutist "men can never become women" crowd attempts to shut down these debates How does this shut down the debate? Anyone is welcome to argue their case in favor of the concept of "male women", and many do attempt to do so.