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Speaking of lab leaks... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detri

Speaking of lab leaks... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick...

NicoJuicy 4y ago
> But there has been no threat to public health, no injuries to employees and no leaks of dangerous material outside the laboratory, Ms. Vander Linden said. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
- unity1001 4y ago
  In the US common law, that is the thing that you need to say in case you face any court case whatsoever in the future. Any objective details that you give about the situation may be used as evidence against you in a court case by the prosecutors. Therefore you always need to start from 'nothing ever happened' and then negotiate down the responsibility as much as you can. Immediately in that period the retirement homes in the area and later the state, started experiencing 'mystery pnemonia cases' in which a lot of elderly have died. This is without the fact that the US govt. fighting the Army in the court to shut down a bioweapons lab should already signal the severity of the affair. For anyone who follows the US corporate & regulatory space in regard to public interest lawsuits, that article at NYT not only being up today, but also having been branded 'published in 2019' to attract attention says a lot: That article basically says that there was a leak in a bioweapons lab in the US due to failure of security measures, but the government has properly acted and even took the army to the court to shut it down. It basically exonerates the US admn. legally by hooking up the army, and actually the administration that very specific lab with all the responsibility, meanwhile signaling to all international observers including the decision makers in countries around the world that it was not the US govt. who did it. Therefore the US govt. cannot be sued for that even inside the US. So the very article is a legal precaution per US law itself. ... "Whataboutism" Any claim/proposition has to be made on an objective framework. Otherwise they become hollow smears.
  - NicoJuicy 4y ago
    > Immediately in that period the retirement homes in the area and later the state, started experiencing 'mystery pnemonia cases' in which a lot of elderly have died. So... No source?
    - unity1001 4y ago
      Yeah. No source. Well spotted. Good job. You totally protected your belief system and avoided cognitive dissonance. https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/officials-at-least-1300-flu-deaths-reported-so-far-this-flu-season-including-4-in-maryland/ https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/officials-at-least-13... https://www.necn.com/news/national-international/health-officials-to-give-update-after-respiratory-illness-sickens-dozens-at-virginia-retirement-community/204589/ https://www.necn.com/news/national-international/health-offi... https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/vaping-illnesses-maryland/ https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/vaping-illnesses-mary... ... The next time you discuss with someone, do a freaking google search to contribute to the discussion.
      - NicoJuicy 4y ago
        Shouldn't an outbreak happen before the lab is shutdown instead of months later, during the flu season? A lot of elderly that died is 3? You're right, this "US lab leak" (kuch) is way worse than the one from Wuhan that infected the world with millions of casualties. LOL! What are you even suggesting even? It's starting to get ridiculous. Oh yeah, your source was probably this: http://de.china-embassy.gov.cn/det/zt/BekaempfungCOVID19/202111/t20211109_10446017.htm http://de.china-embassy.gov.cn/det/zt/BekaempfungCOVID19/202... . Which matched your exact 'mystery pnemonia cases' keyword and is ( not ) surprisingly similar to your "references". I'd expect better of state funded propaganda outlet for 1 billion people. PS. https://www.polygraph.info/a/china-disinfo-covid-19/6742435.html https://www.polygraph.info/a/china-disinfo-covid-19/6742435.... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58273322 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58273322
        unity1001 4y ago

Speaking of lab leaks... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick...

NicoJuicy 4y ago

> But there has been no threat to public health, no injuries to employees and no leaks of dangerous material outside the laboratory, Ms. Vander Linden said. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

unity1001 4y ago
In the US common law, that is the thing that you need to say in case you face any court case whatsoever in the future. Any objective details that you give about the situation may be used as evidence against you in a court case by the prosecutors. Therefore you always need to start from 'nothing ever happened' and then negotiate down the responsibility as much as you can. Immediately in that period the retirement homes in the area and later the state, started experiencing 'mystery pnemonia cases' in which a lot of elderly have died. This is without the fact that the US govt. fighting the Army in the court to shut down a bioweapons lab should already signal the severity of the affair. For anyone who follows the US corporate & regulatory space in regard to public interest lawsuits, that article at NYT not only being up today, but also having been branded 'published in 2019' to attract attention says a lot: That article basically says that there was a leak in a bioweapons lab in the US due to failure of security measures, but the government has properly acted and even took the army to the court to shut it down. It basically exonerates the US admn. legally by hooking up the army, and actually the administration that very specific lab with all the responsibility, meanwhile signaling to all international observers including the decision makers in countries around the world that it was not the US govt. who did it. Therefore the US govt. cannot be sued for that even inside the US. So the very article is a legal precaution per US law itself. ... "Whataboutism" Any claim/proposition has to be made on an objective framework. Otherwise they become hollow smears.
- NicoJuicy 4y ago
  > Immediately in that period the retirement homes in the area and later the state, started experiencing 'mystery pnemonia cases' in which a lot of elderly have died. So... No source?
  - unity1001 4y ago
    Yeah. No source. Well spotted. Good job. You totally protected your belief system and avoided cognitive dissonance. https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/officials-at-least-1300-flu-deaths-reported-so-far-this-flu-season-including-4-in-maryland/ https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/officials-at-least-13... https://www.necn.com/news/national-international/health-officials-to-give-update-after-respiratory-illness-sickens-dozens-at-virginia-retirement-community/204589/ https://www.necn.com/news/national-international/health-offi... https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/vaping-illnesses-maryland/ https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/vaping-illnesses-mary... ... The next time you discuss with someone, do a freaking google search to contribute to the discussion.
    - NicoJuicy 4y ago
      Shouldn't an outbreak happen before the lab is shutdown instead of months later, during the flu season? A lot of elderly that died is 3? You're right, this "US lab leak" (kuch) is way worse than the one from Wuhan that infected the world with millions of casualties. LOL! What are you even suggesting even? It's starting to get ridiculous. Oh yeah, your source was probably this: http://de.china-embassy.gov.cn/det/zt/BekaempfungCOVID19/202111/t20211109_10446017.htm http://de.china-embassy.gov.cn/det/zt/BekaempfungCOVID19/202... . Which matched your exact 'mystery pnemonia cases' keyword and is ( not ) surprisingly similar to your "references". I'd expect better of state funded propaganda outlet for 1 billion people. PS. https://www.polygraph.info/a/china-disinfo-covid-19/6742435.html https://www.polygraph.info/a/china-disinfo-covid-19/6742435.... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58273322 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58273322
      - unity1001 4y ago